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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Slanted and Enchanted had a lot of catchy songs. I understand Crooked Rain (?) is also widely lauded. They have others?
    For sure:

    Slanted & Enchanted
    Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
    Wowee Zowee
    Brighten the Corners

    Their last album is good too, but not as good as these 4 very strong outputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberdien View Post
    For sure:

    Slanted & Enchanted
    Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
    Wowee Zowee
    Brighten the Corners

    Their last album is good too, but not as good as these 4 very strong outputs.
    I am very skeptical. I don't even know that I'd put Slanted & Enchanted in the great album tier, but probably I would. When I go back and listen, it doesn't do a whole lot for me--it was a lot of great hooks that grew stale after far fewer listens than I had hoped.

    While skeptical, I cannot dismiss it until I listen to the other three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    I am very skeptical. I don't even know that I'd put Slanted & Enchanted in the great album tier, but probably I would. When I go back and listen, it doesn't do a whole lot for me--it was a lot of great hooks that grew stale after far fewer listens than I had hoped.

    While skeptical, I cannot dismiss it until I listen to the other three.
    Well what is out criteria here...our own personal opinions? General critic consensus? Combo?

    I don't know that I personally like most of those 4 Who albums. But I still think they qualify considering how strong the critic consensus is on them. Putting personal tastes aside - I love Crooked Rain, but I wasn't into S&E that much and I rarely listen to Pavement these days - those 4 albums are highly regarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberdien View Post
    Well what is out criteria here...our own personal opinions? General critic consensus? Combo?

    I don't know that I personally like most of those 4 Who albums. But I still think they qualify considering how strong the critic consensus is on them. Putting personal tastes aside - I love Crooked Rain, but I wasn't into S&E that much and I rarely listen to Pavement these days - those 4 albums are highly regarded.
    Criteria is tricky. Ok, so to clarify what is happening:

    1. There's this thing about 4-album bands that are the creme of the crop during the Album Era
    2. There's a debate about Beatles vs. Stones [that is really a debate about the best band or best rock band of the Album Era]

    There is some overlap between the two, but they are two separate issues. Part of the overlap is from the spirit of taking a fresh look at bands many consider to be great bands from the Album Era.

    So I'm going to cabin the 4-album discussion in this thread by creating a new thread for that topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    The Pixies, and they > the Who. Greatest of all American rock bands IMO, but didn't make enough albums. Fits this definition to a "T"
    Add me to the list of people that can't stand The Pixies...much to my wife's dismay. But if we're adding more modern bands, I feel like The Black Crowes were severely underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Add me to the list of people that can't stand The Pixies...much to my wife's dismay. But if we're adding more modern bands, I feel like The Black Crowes were severely underrated.
    I think a difference 'tween you and me musically is that I dislike Blues pretty strongly, but I love Rock. I just want it to have as little Blues influence as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    I think a difference 'tween you and me musically is that I dislike Blues pretty strongly, but I love Rock. I just want it to have as little Blues influence as possible
    That's an interesting observation I had not considered. What is rock without blues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    That's an interesting observation I had not considered. What is rock without blues?
    A lot ends up a Progressive rock. Pulls its influences more from European classical and folk roots, some Jazz, not so much American blues. This is not a perfect model by any means. Its why, for example, I find Eric Clapton so utterly boring. The guy has serious technical skills out the wazoo, but he is a blues purist and it doesn't move me at all. Jeff Beck trended into more Jazz stuff (more interesting too, IMO) while, keeping with the ex-Yardbirds theme, Jimmy Page bent, twisted, spindled, and mutilated Blues into something far more interesting
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    If were discussing all time underrated bands (just glanced at the last few pages sorry, I'm a very busy man) I'd throw in The Sonics. That band was decades ahead of it's time. Listen to those songs and then realize they were singing them in the 60's it's insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Add me to the list of people that can't stand The Pixies...much to my wife's dismay. But if we're adding more modern bands, I feel like The Black Crowes were severely underrated.
    They'll be at Red Rocks in August. If that date holds, I just might try to make it!

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    I want to disagree with that, but I can't. That's relatable to me because I cannot stand the Beatles or Stones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
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    Somehow when I saw this thread in the new posts I knew you were quoting me saying that. I just knew it.
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