Thread: Off Season Moves

Originally Posted by dogfish

from a talent standpoint i would agree, but i think buff's right as well. . . darnold may be the likeliest of the reclamation projects to succeed, but it's probably going to take a shanahan or mcvey to get it out of him-- i can't see shurmur doing any better with sam than he has with drew. . .

Sam Darnold = Ryan Tennehill.

Originally Posted by Traveler

I’ll also say this: If we were to somehow get Watson, Shurmur’s days are numbered as the OC. He just hasn’t shown he can adapt his scheme to a QB’s strength IMO.

I don't think it matters who the QB is at this point - Sherm's days are numbered regardless.

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

I don’t like Mark but he’s half way right! The broncos do have some gaping holes in some critical area’s and we are not one quarterback away from being contenders we are a quarterback, linebacker, two corners, and some depth away from being true contenders which you surely won’t get if you trade it away for Watson. You might win a extra game and have 6 wins but we’re not there yet.

I don’t think we’re as bad as he makes us out to be but we did get smoked vs the great teams this year so whatever.

I'll say this:

Having an elite DB and elite defense does not make up for having an offense with an inept offense and an average to below average QB that cannot score.

An elite QB with an offense that can score makes up for not having an elite defense most of the time.

An offense that can ring up the score almost always gets you a ticket to the show. It might not win you the big game, as we saw against Seattle, but it'll get you there. An elite defense on the same team as an inept offense gets you a spot in the stands watching.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I've never particularly understood the love for him as a commentator. I feel like he's just been a hot take guy for about as long as he's been in the media. And yeah, making any point about this team based on that saints game is just completely ridiculous.

Sometimes I think Stink feels like he has to be this way so that he doesn't come across as a Broncos homer.

Originally Posted by Northman

If we are putting our chips in on a franchise guy Wentz isnt it.

I think Wentz is going to prove a lot of people wrong man. I still think he's a stud, but was in a shit situation. Indy will make the playoffs next season and Wentz will make the Pro Bowl for the AFC.

Originally Posted by SR

I think Wentz is going to prove a lot of people wrong man. I still think he's a stud, but was in a shit situation. Indy will make the playoffs next season and Wentz will make the Pro Bowl for the AFC.

Disagree but time will tell.

Originally Posted by SR

I think Wentz is going to prove a lot of people wrong man. I still think he's a stud, but was in a shit situation. Indy will make the playoffs next season and Wentz will make the Pro Bowl for the AFC.

That may be, but I don't think he'd do that in Denver. He's familiar with Reich and had his best season with him. So it would make sense if he flourished again back with him. I don't think Denver has the right offensive coaching to have gotten him back on the right track. And I think he and Fangio would have clashed based on the reports out of Philly about how he took tough coaching.

Originally Posted by Northman

Disagree but time will tell.

It's not exactly an agreeable take and I think I'm in the minority here, but Wentz went to the most ideal situation possible for him at this point in his career. He went to his old OC on a playoff team. What more could he ask for? All he has to do is not **** it up.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

That may be, but I don't think he'd do that in Denver. He's familiar with Reich and had his best season with him. So it would make sense if he flourished again back with him. I don't think Denver has the right offensive coaching to have gotten him back on the right track. And I think he and Fangio would have clashed based on the reports out of Philly about how he took tough coaching.

Agree 100%.

Originally Posted by SR

Sometimes I think Stink feels like he has to be this way so that he doesn't come across as a Broncos homer.

I love Stink. I think he's a great dude in real life, was a great Bronco, and has sound football takes (and a smokin hot daughter).

I do think that because he is a former Bronco and lives here - he is overly harsh and overly critical of the Broncos... And at the same time, he played for some really good teams - and he knows bad football when he sees it.

I think he knows from his time at ESPN that hot takes sell - and he's mastered the art of the hot take - but I don't think he's like a Skip Bayless type that will just argue anything for the sake of debate... I think Schlereth mostly believes what he is saying.

Originally Posted by SR

It's not exactly an agreeable take and I think I'm in the minority here, but Wentz went to the most ideal situation possible for him at this point in his career. He went to his old OC on a playoff team. What more could he ask for? All he has to do is not **** it up.

I'm already pre-annoyed at all the "We could have had Wentz for nothing, WTF was Paton doing?" takes we're going to get if he has a good year in Indy. I think we'd have just been a poor fit for him.

Originally Posted by Buff

I love Stink. I think he's a great dude in real life, was a great Bronco, and has sound football takes (and a smokin hot daughter).

I do think that because he is a former Bronco and lives here - he is overly harsh and overly critical of the Broncos... And at the same time, he played for some really good teams - and he knows bad football when he sees it.

I think he knows from his time at ESPN that hot takes sell - and he's mastered the art of the hot take - but I don't think he's like a Skip Bayless type that will just argue anything for the sake of debate... I think Schlereth mostly believes what he is saying.

High Fived for the daughter comment.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I'm already pre-annoyed at all the "We could have had Wentz for nothing, WTF was Paton doing?" takes we're going to get if he has a good year in Indy. I think we'd have just been a poor fit for him.

Yep, basically. I don't think Wentz is going to go to Indy and light the world on fire, but I think with Indy getting him so cheap and being there with Reich, we'll probably see Indy put some more pieces around him to make him more successful. I could see him throwing for 4k, 30 TDs, and 15 INTs.

Nothing to see here - this was expected.

Originally Posted by Buff

Nothing to see here - this was expected.

Must not have any compromising photos of Paton like he seemed to have of Elway...