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    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — After joining the team as an undrafted free agent in 2011, Chris Harris Jr. has spent more time with the Broncos than any current player not named Von Miller. He's seen division and conference championships, playoff wins and even a Super Bowl victory.

    But now he and the Broncos are mired in a streak of three consecutive seasons without a single playoff berth. On Monday, Harris identified what he feels is the reason behind that drought.

    "I think we just haven’t evolved here," Harris said. "I think after the Super Bowl we kind of just got stagnant. We haven’t evolved. We’ve got to figure out how we can evolve on offense, defense, special teams and everything [and] get better as players. We have to evolve with the times of the NFL. We’re behind right now."
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    Well, mostly it's the players. True, Vance Joseph and co didn't help. There was bad coaching that cost a few games. But, suppose they won 3 games because they had superior coaching? That's 9-7. DO you think that talent wise, this is a 9-7 team? No.

    They are exactly what they appear - a team with major holes on offense and defense and (perhaps due to coaching) on special teams.

    On Offense: they don't have a QB of course, and the scheme that they ran didn't fit Case Keenum very well. He didn't execute the plays he had right in front of him either.

    Well, there's not an obvious upgrade. There's the realization "we desperately need a QB in a draft where there probably isn't one." There was the hope that the veteran QB they signed in FA would work out and that hope failed. He was no better than Trevor Siemian.

    NO TEs. Butt out his entire career due to surgery, and Heurman a FA and injured.

    Defense: All kinds of problems and replacing Barrett, Pecko, Roby, Marshall, and several others. Oh, and they went from the best 3 CB tandem in football in 2017 to NO starting caliber CBs at the end of 2018. Now Roby is gone and they desperately need to draft a CB. That could be their pick at #10 if no QB there is worth such a high pick. A CB would be a really valuable selection.

    Or a TE.

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    CuJoel. You literally told us that “nobody knows Case Keenum better than the Denver Broncos”, now they didn’t use him right.

    He sucks, period ... it’s his fault, not the coaches.

    Btw, iirc, you don’t follow the draft, stay in your lane big shifter.
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    Ok. So...

    What are the offensive changes mentioned in the header?

    Guess Elway is eyeing them with a kind of wistful, far-away look.

    Seriously tho. A menu of HCs that haven't made significant contributions to NFL offensive theory and we are supposed to buy this lip service?

    Let's see it, not hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Ok. So...

    What are the offensive changes mentioned in the header?

    Guess Elway is eyeing them with a kind of wistful, far-away look.

    Seriously tho. A menu of HCs that haven't made significant contributions to NFL offensive theory and we are supposed to buy this lip service?

    Let's see it, not hear it.
    I didn’t get much change at all from Elway comments, seems to me he’s doubling down on the current system.
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    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Maybe (hopefully) Zac Taylor is the hotshit OC.
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    Ya know who Munchak’s OC was in Tennessee? Chris Palmer (who he fired) and Dowell Loggains.

    Pagano had Pep Hamilton, Rob Chudzinski and Clyde Christenson.

    None of these coaches offer continuity.

    Except for Taylor, but if he is the HC what kind of staff could we possibly expect from him?

    Me thinks the new HC isn’t being allowed to fill his own staff.
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    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
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    Oh Hawg with the raw dawg.
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Maybe (hopefully) Zac Taylor is the hotshit OC.
    Wasn't he a Husker QB? I think I liked him. Don't know much about the coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Wasn't he a Husker QB? I think I liked him. Don't know much about the coach.
    He was, played for Bill Callahan iirc, so connect those dots and pray.
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    Raw dawg Hawg.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

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    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Raw dawg Hawg.
    North went hard with the pew Jackson andi wanted to style as well!
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Maybe Elway hires Zac Taylor with the pretense that he’ll assemble a staff for him while he’s still coaching in the PO’s, devious.
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    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
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    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    I keep Coming back to this report by Albert Breer in November. and elways statement about the new rules helping the offense - so evolving is required.

    https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/...-type-offenses
    And that with some buzz starting circulate in NFL circles that GM John Elway has taken a special interest in the kinds of college concepts his division rival Chiefs have employed, which could be a tip to his plans for January, if things keep going this way.
    Here’s hoping that what they are interviewing someone for as HC is a super strong desire to adapt to the new shit and will either let kubes do it as OC after he’s been studying up for the past year or bring in a young gun to do it...
    maybe doesn’t seem like munchak or fanjio or pagano but me thinks the guy getting hired will be the one most on board with the new wave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    North went hard with the pew Jackson andi wanted to style as well!

    Pew Jackson was style-god.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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