Thread: Educate me on the New HC options. Who do we want and why?

Allbright is one of the dumbest human beings in existence.

Originally Posted by King87

Allbright is one of the dumbest human beings in existence.

Yeah, I think it’s a dumb comment. I think what’s more important though is the fact that he said it. Him saying these things makes me think it’s Quinn. Or at least Allbright is pretty confident that it is.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Y'all thought the Drew Lock Wars of 2021 were bad, just wait for the Dan Quinn Wars of 2022!

Ok dude. So that I get a head start, what side are you going to be on?

@Albright's comment, paraphrased: 'Good HC ≠ offensive (or defensive) mastermind, it's bigger'

What's implied: they *merely* need the facility to adjudge such acumen, but more importantly, they need to conduct a symphony of staff and players--an issue more important and separate from play to play success.

My thoughts.

From a risk-mitigation perspective, which is a good place to start, the HC needs to be able to pick up the music when the team flubs and loses the beat. The best example I can think of a HC who did not have this was Josh McDaniels. When he lost his cheat code (i.e., the musical flub--the 'skkkrrrrrt') the team went to shit and didn't recover. Tailspin into earth.

With young, unproven guys, it's a gamble. It's a trait different than puzzle-solving, it's more of a 'draw on my bottomless reservoir of intrinsic faith in my own ability' or something like that. Hard to put into words, but I think y'all get it. Maybe the word is unflappable. But it's also that everyone around you wants you to attain your vision, too. First-timers, the stage is different, it takes a great judge of character to identify it. Bowlen saw it in Shanny Sr.

Shanny Sr. def had it. I have a theory that it's related to facing adversity.

I think Albright is correct that a legit HC must have this trait, and I can see why a Quinn hire checks this box. My prepared silver-lining thought about hiring Quinn is that at least he has something to prove, if he is also a 'leader-of-men' whisperer as the spoonfed pitch goes.

But I have a major problem with Albright's statement that HC > guru. More than even the 'they'll just get hired away' position.

The problem is that the HC needs to be the acumen guy in order to adjudge his coordinator's brilliance. If the HC 'doesn't get it' despite the coordinator having profound, game-shaking insight, that kind of quick-twitch instant recognition of a complex puzzle having been solved, because the HC isn't on that same level, there's a tendency to avoid risk and innovation.

I'm using absolutes--I know it's super nuanced and there are shades of color in between all or nothing. We can agree it's a continuum, not binary.

But there's another problem with Albright's statement.

He assumes that the HC can identify and develop that X's and O's coaching talent. Not only that, the HC can identify and develop that exceedingly rare 'genius-level' X's and O's talent. If that is true, then why are there so few 'genius-level' X's and O's talent coaches in the NFL compared to the number of head coaches?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

@Albright's comment, paraphrased: 'Good HC ≠ offensive (or defensive) mastermind, it's bigger'

What's implied: they *merely* need the facility to adjudge such acumen, but more importantly, they need to conduct a symphony of staff and players--an issue more important and separate from play to play success.

My thoughts.

From a risk-mitigation perspective, which is a good place to start, the HC needs to be able to pick up the music when the team flubs and loses the beat. The best example I can think of a HC who did not have this was Josh McDaniels. When he lost his cheat code (i.e., the musical flub--the 'skkkrrrrrt') the team went to shit and didn't recover. Tailspin into earth.

With young, unproven guys, it's a gamble. It's a trait different than puzzle-solving, it's more of a 'draw on my bottomless reservoir of intrinsic faith in my own ability' or something like that. Hard to put into words, but I think y'all get it. Maybe the word is unflappable. But it's also that everyone around you wants you to attain your vision, too. First-timers, the stage is different, it takes a great judge of character to identify it. Bowlen saw it in Shanny Sr.

Shanny Sr. def had it. I have a theory that it's related to facing adversity.

I think Albright is correct that a legit HC must have this trait, and I can see why a Quinn hire checks this box. My prepared silver-lining thought about hiring Quinn is that at least he has something to prove, if he is also a 'leader-of-men' whisperer as the spoonfed pitch goes.

But I have a major problem with Albright's statement that HC > guru. More than even the 'they'll just get hired away' position.

The problem is that the HC needs to be the acumen guy in order to adjudge his coordinator's brilliance. If the HC 'doesn't get it' despite the coordinator having profound, game-shaking insight, that kind of quick-twitch instant recognition of a complex puzzle having been solved, because the HC isn't on that same level, there's a tendency to avoid risk and innovation.

I'm using absolutes--I know it's super nuanced and there are shades of color in between all or nothing. We can agree it's a continuum, not binary.

But there's another problem with Albright's statement.

He assumes that the HC can identify and develop that X's and O's coaching talent. Not only that, the HC can identify and develop that exceedingly rare 'genius-level' X's and O's talent. If that is true, then why are there so few 'genius-level' X's and O's talent coaches in the NFL compared to the number of head coaches?

Arguably the best post this board's ever seen. 10 out of 10 the content that I desire.

Originally Posted by king87

arguably the best post this board's ever seen. 10 out of 10 the content that i desire.

tldr…

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

tldr… :d

Hawg, don't do it!

Originally Posted by King87

Arguably the best post this board's ever seen. 10 out of 10 the content that I desire.

I was gonna say...Didn't read. Too many words.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

I was gonna say...Didn't read. Too many words.

too short; didn't read.

Originally Posted by King87

Allbright is one of the dumbest human beings in existence.

I do not concur

Originally Posted by underrated29

I do not concur

Then I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by King87

Then I'm wrong.

Then you are King!

Originally Posted by King87

Arguably the best post this board's ever seen. 10 out of 10 the content that I desire.

⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ Will not read again

Originally Posted by underrated29

If what I just posted comes true it wont matter who the HC is. Quinny will be fine.