Is that idiot Pinella still planing on a lineup where he has Soriano hitting 1st, then Theriot, then Lee, then Ramirez, followed up by Fukadome? Why the hell is Fukadome hitting 5th when neither Soriano or Theriot have great OBP's? Oh, because Soriano is fast and he doesn't want to hurt his ego having him hit 2nd. Kinda like playing Soriano in CF.
I'm an Orioles fan first and probably a Cubs fan 2nd. As an O's fan, I'd hate to lose Roberts. When you refer to him as a premier player, you have to look at his stats amongst other 2nd basemen and amongst leadoff hitters.
With all the arms we got in the other 2 trades, we don't need alot more, but one of Gallagher or Marshall will HAVE to be a part of the deal. If Pie is untouchable, then the Cubs would have to add Murton and probably Patterson. Remember...this is one of the best 2nd basemen in the game. After Utley, Phillips, Cano, Polanco...he's easily a top 5 player at the position and unlike the others...he can leadoff and steal bases regularly.
I really don't want them to deal him, but if they do...I'd prefer to see him with the Cubs
No, because we'd be targeting a lead off hitter. The fact that he plays 2B is secondary. We need a leadoff hitter more than we need a 2B.
Sorry, its only worth Gallagher or Marshall and Murton. Its more important for the Cubs to ask what its worth for them to acquire a leadoff hitter than it is to evaluate whats fair for Baltimore to ask. If Baltimore is asking more than what its worth in terms of the Cubs satisfying a need, then they shouldnt pull the trigger.With all the arms we got in the other 2 trades, we don't need alot more, but one of Gallagher or Marshall will HAVE to be a part of the deal. If Pie is untouchable, then the Cubs would have to add Murton and probably Patterson.
Again, we need a lead off hitter more than a 2B.Remember...this is one of the best 2nd basemen in the game. After Utley, Phillips, Cano, Polanco...he's easily a top 5 player at the position and unlike the others...he can leadoff and steal bases regularly.
Easy for you to say. Youre not subjected to the day-to-day reporting that goes on with the Cubs and Ive already had my fill of the steroids thing and you know its going to come up where Roberts is concerned when theres a slow news day. That kind of stuff may not make its way to where you are but its prevalent here and Id rather not be subjected to it. Like I said, Pie actually might do well in the leadoff spot. We need to wait and see though.I really don't want them to deal him, but if they do...I'd prefer to see him with the Cubs
DeRosa is okay offensively, but still not what Roberts is. Add to the fact his fielding is suspect and he's 32. Fontenot is nothing but a back-up and has hands of stone. Theriot has speed but offers nothing offensively unless he gets walked.
So basically, you are betting that Patterson or Cedeno are the answer.
With Roberts, you upgrade your leadoff spot, SB's, 2nd base defense and offensive production from the position. So, for a top 4 2nd baseman, you aren't willing to give up a maybe in Patterson, your 4th outfielder in Murton and one of 2 young prospect pitchers that won't even see the mound this year because of the rotation of Zambrano, Marquis, Lilly, Lieber and one of Gallagher or Marshall.
That is the definition of being a homer. To be honest, as an Oriole fan, I'd be hesitant to accept that deal for Roberts to begin with, so it surprises me that a Cub fan would turn it down.
Gotta love hyperbole.
No, Im content with DeRosa at second if Pie does well.So basically, you are betting that Patterson or Cedeno are the answer.
This is the only thing the Cubs should be worried about. DeRosa is a serviceable 2B. Admittedly he's not as good as Roberts but we dont have to give up two good arms to get DeRosa either. Not worth it.With Roberts, you upgrade your leadoff spot, SB's, 2nd base defense and offensive production from the position. So, for a top 4 2nd baseman, you aren't willing to give up a maybe in Patterson, your 4th outfielder in Murton and one of 2 young prospect pitchers that won't even see the mound this year because of the rotation of Zambrano, Marquis, Lilly, Lieber and one of Gallagher or Marshall.
And, btw, Dempster is supposed to be a starter too. But a young arm is worth more than a 2B.
Id rather see how Pie does. And evaluaing a trades worth by what you want out of it, is hardly homerish.That is the definition of being a homer. To be honest, as an Oriole fan, I'd be hesitant to accept that deal for Roberts to begin with, so it surprises me that a Cub fan would turn it down.
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