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    Quote Originally Posted by lex View Post
    Its kind of been a fun ride lately for Cubs fans. I hope it continues. We need another pitcher. BTW, its kind of fun to see the Cubs go on the road and see as many Cubs fans as fans of the home team.
    I haven't seen my Cubbies yet this year, but even when they suck they have a lot of fans on the road. I went to a three game series in Houston about 5 years ago and about 1/4 to a 1/3 of the fans were Cubs fans.

    Yes we need another pitcher, hopefully Lilly can get his act together. Right now I don't like our chances in the playoffs against a team like Arizona as we can only rely on Zambrano and Dempster.

    Also Wood is giving me heart attacks again every time he tries to close, he doesn't seem like a top notch closer unless he brings his A game.

    Did you see how Prior is having shoulder surgery again. Talk about wasted potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyBronco View Post
    I haven't seen my Cubbies yet this year, but even when they suck they have a lot of fans on the road. I went to a three game series in Houston about 5 years ago and about 1/4 to a 1/3 of the fans were Cubs fans.
    Yes we need another pitcher, hopefully Lilly can get his act together. Right now I don't like our chances in the playoffs against a team like Arizona as we can only rely on Zambrano and Dempster.

    Also Wood is giving me heart attacks again every time he tries to close, he doesn't seem like a top notch closer unless he brings his A game.

    Did you see how Prior is having shoulder surgery again. Talk about wasted potential.
    Yeah, its more pronounced now though. Last night, the Cubs fans were louder than the Padres fans. And Prior doesnt shock me at all.
    Last edited by lex; 06-04-2008 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex View Post
    Yeah, its more pronounced now though. Last night, the Cubs fans were louder than the Padres fans.
    I was just noticing the Cubs are 38-21. If (though unlikely) they can squeeze 4 more wins out of this current winning streak, they will be 42-21. Along with being .666, thats 21 games over .500 (going by how its commonly described). I feel like we should have a bigger cushion than 3.5 games though. On the other hand, the Brewers have won 8 of their last 10 and lost ground. Good times.

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    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    The Starting Pitcher Market
    Almost every team needs starting pitching. Let's take a look at who's out there.

    Bronson Arroyo, Reds. If Walt Jocketty starts selling off his veterans, he'll have to listen on Arroyo. The innings-eating 31 year-old is signed through 2010.
    Derek Lowe, Dodgers. Lowe seems to have righted the ship after a five-start stumble. He'll be a free agent after the season, but I can't see Ned Colletti moving Lowe unless the Dodgers fall out of contention.
    Joe Blanton, A's. Like Arroyo, a hittable innings eater. Also like Arroyo, he's under team control through 2010.
    Livan Hernandez, Twins. The Twins may want to keep Livan, since they are in the thick of the AL Central race. You may recall they did not elect to trade Carlos Silva last year.
    A.J. Burnett, Blue Jays. His name comes up in trade rumors because of an opt out clause. If he thinks he can top a two-year, $24MM deal, Burnett will probably elect free agency after the season. The Jays are currently a contender, so he shouldn't be available. Plus, he has a limited no-trade clause.
    Boof Bonser, Twins. Recently demoted to the bullpen, Bonser may be expendable (and more desirable than Livan).
    Brad Penny, Dodgers. The Dodgers hold an $8.75MM option for '09 with a $2MM buyout. Penny has a limited no-trade clause. He's pitched terribly lately.
    C.C. Sabathia, Indians. Teams would be falling all over themselves to add a true ace, even for two months. And maybe the acquiring team would try to lock him up. The Indians are still contending, however.
    Daniel Cabrera, Orioles. Has he turned the corner, or should the O's sell high? Cabrera is under team control through 2010.
    Gil Meche, Royals. Meche is signed through 2011. I think the Royals should at least shop him around.
    Greg Maddux, Padres. Mad Dog has no-trade protection, so it'll be his call as to whether he wants a trade.
    Jeremy Bonderman, Nate Robertson, Kenny Rogers, Tigers. Some have suggested the Tigers will look to move a starter. They're not out of the AL Central race, in my opinion.
    Miguel Batista, Jarrod Washburn, Mariners. Both vets are signed through '09. Both have been lousy.
    Odalis Perez, Nationals. Allows too many baserunners, but may be attractive as an innings eater. Should definitely be available.
    Randy Wolf, Padres. If Wolf puts in another strong, healthy month he should be one of Kevin Towers' more valuable trade chips.
    Kevin Millwood, Vicente Padilla, Sidney Ponson, Rangers. The Rangers are only six games out, so don't start the fire sale yet. Padilla is signed through '09, Millwood through '10.
    Ben Sheets, Brewers. The Brewers are only 3.5 games out of the wild card, so trading Sheets (an impending free agent) should not be considered for now.
    Paul Byrd, Jeremy Sowers, Indians. Shopping these two made sense before the Jake Westbrook injury. Pitching surpluses don't exist!
    Zack Greinke, Royals. To trade him, the Royals would probably need a very good, cheap, young MLB-ready hitter.
    Rich Harden, A's. I expect interested teams to see how Harden fares over the next month before getting serious.
    Im hoping the Cubs land a pitcher or two.

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    Wow, Wood makes it way too interesting. Its good to get a win against a game Dodgers team tonight. Every win helps.

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    Another home win. Its nice to have this at Wrigley. Today was really a get-up-off-the-mat win.

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    Well, this weekend is the series vs the first place White Sox, meanwhile St. Louis has their annual series vs Kansas City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex View Post
    Well, this weekend is the series vs the first place White Sox, meanwhile St. Louis has their annual series vs Kansas City.
    God, I hope we kill the White Sox. I really do hate them and their idiot, hot head of a manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyBronco View Post
    God, I hope we kill the White Sox. I really do hate them and their idiot, hot head of a manager.
    Quite honestly, Id rather beat the Pirates. Those games actually mean more than the gamse vs the Sox...and I really hate how the Cubs-Sox games are so overhyped around here. I guess to some degree I want the Cubs to do well against the White Sox because its the White Sox is due to the fact that so much is made of whatever happens in these games and if its going to get such coverage, Id rather hear something good obviously.

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    Well after that stumble in St. Pete, it was satisfying to bounce back strongly this past weekend. Im still kind of worried about the pitching and some of the bats that have cooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex View Post
    Well after that stumble in St. Pete, it was satisfying to bounce back strongly this past weekend. Im still kind of worried about the pitching and some of the bats that have cooled.
    Rumors...

    Market for Sabathia expanding
    C.C. Sabathia | Indians | Interested: Red Sox? Yankees? Cubs? Dodgers?
    The trade market for Indians' ace C.C. Sabathia is expanding daily, the Cleveland Plain-Dealer reports.

    There are two new teams in the market as the Los Angeles Dodgers placed right-handed starters Brad Penny and Hiroki Kuroda on the disabled list Thursday. Also, the Chicago Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano is experiencing shoulder problems and could end up on the 15-Day DL.

    The Dodgers and Cubs join the Red Sox, who placed Bartolo Colon (back) on the DL, and the Yankees, who lost staff ace Chien-Ming Wang (foot) until September, on the list of possible suitors for Sabathia.

    Indians general manager Mark Shapiro has not yet given up hope on the 2008 season but with Cleveland slipping further out of playoff contention, he could be looking to deal Sabathia for some quality prospects.
    And

    Erik Bedard is on the trading block
    Erik Bedard | Mariners
    Erik Bedard is "now officially on the market," however his trade value has diminished over the course of the season due to his 4-4 record and 4.14 ERA, ESPN's Jayson Stark reports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissouriBronc View Post
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    Yeah, I had seen a lot of that kicked around. Rumors swirl all over the place around here. Personally, I think Sabathia is going to be too expensive. I wouldnt mind it but I dont see the Cubs biting. Burnett might be more realistic. I would actually like to see Harden but there are too many teams who arent THAT far out of it yet.

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    I don't think the Cubs are going to get Sabathia. They don't have enough in trade value to get him plus they still don't have a new owner. Sabathia would be an ok rent-a-pitcher as you can let him go after the playoffs.

    I think they should wait until some more teams are out of it to see what is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyBronco View Post
    I don't think the Cubs are going to get Sabathia. They don't have enough in trade value to get him plus they still don't have a new owner. Sabathia would be an ok rent-a-pitcher as you can let him go after the playoffs.

    I think they should wait until some more teams are out of it to see what is available.
    I agree but its still a topic thats often discussed.

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