Thread: Is trading up with St. Louis cheaper than trading up with Atlanta?

Since a lot of people have St Louis looking at OL and since there are some decent OL in this draft at 12, do you think St Louis would be more apt to trade down, than, say, Atlanta? If youre St Louis and youre looking at dradting an OL and youre not enamored with Long who played in a ZBS in college, might you want to trade down to 12 to get Clady or Williams?

Meanwhile, if youre Atlanta, you actually might want to stay there to replace Michael Vick with a prized pick. Besides, Atlantas new coach was the Jax DC before and he would probably prefer Ellis/Dorsey over the other DTs since the DTs are a big part of the Jax defense while StL just took Carreker last year.

Also, keep in mind what Sundquist said about how last year 8 of the 10 teams approached us about trading down...again, we didnt approach them, they approached us.

Pick No. 2 - 2600
Pick No. 3 - 2200

Broncos Picks:
Pick No. 12 - 1200
Pick No. 44 - 460
Pick No. 100 - 100
Pick No. 108 - 78
Pick No. 140 - 36
Pick No. 149 - 131.8
Pick No. 204 - 10.8
Total Value = 1916.8

If they find out that Pace can come back healthy next year that could mean that they will hold off on the OL till the 2nd or 3rd and go after a DT/DE at where ever they end up, 3-4-or 5. Barron is a RT so he will slide back over Pace in at LT, and then they could actually get a top G in the 2nd. It dosn't really look like the Rams will want to trade down.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

Pick No. 2 - 2600
Pick No. 3 - 2200

Broncos Picks:
Pick No. 12 - 1200
Pick No. 44 - 460
Pick No. 100 - 100
Pick No. 108 - 78
Pick No. 140 - 36
Pick No. 149 - 131.8
Pick No. 204 - 10.8
Total Value = 1916.8

Yeah, Im familiar with the value chart. But many consider the top 10 to be overvalued and when you look at how more teams want to trade out of the top 10 but cant, those people are probably right.

I think the 5-7 range is the highest we can go.

Originally Posted by BroncoAV06

If they find out that Pace can come back healthy next year that could mean that they will hold off on the OL till the 2nd or 3rd and go after a DT/DE at where ever they end up, 3-4-or 5. Barron is a RT so he will slide back over Pace in at LT, and then they could actually get a top G in the 2nd. It dosn't really look like the Rams will want to trade down.

Perhaps. But I was kind of addressing a scenario specific to them wanting an OL. They might be going for OL or they might be going DL.

Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30

I think the 5-7 range is the highest we can go.

Last year they almost traded up to Detroits spot and now we're about 10 spots higher.

Originally Posted by lex

Last year they almost traded up to Detroits spot and now we're about 10 spots higher.

They tried to trade up that high but couldn't do it... they actually had an agreement with the Texans, but the Texans back out... Shanny was targeting Patrick Willis and was trying to get ahead of the 49ers.

Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30

They tried to trade up that high but couldn't do it... they actually had an agreement with the Texans, but the Texans back out... Shanny was targeting Patrick Willis and was trying to get ahead of the 49ers.

Yeah, Ive heard that about Houston as well, but regarding Detroit, it seems that I had read that it was almost a done deal to move up...and that was like 20 spots.

I think the chart is used by quite a few of the teams...so no it wouldn't be cheaper.

eff that, trade down

Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30

I think the 5-7 range is the highest we can go.

Why? We had a deal in place to move up to the second pick in the first round with Detroit last year before Calvin Johnson blistered the 40 at the combine, and our draft selection was lower than this years.

We also had deals in place that traded away this years number one pick as well. That was with the Broncos thinking they would be drafting in the late twenties of the first round at minimum Im sure. Its because of that reason that Im thinking that Denver will trade away next years first rounder to get more this year, taking advantage of our place in the draft next year. If theres another team among the other 31 teams in the NFL that thinks we will get worse before we get better, then they will be thinking our draft pick will be higher than it is now.

Perfect time to get a franchise DT like Dorsey dont ya think? Nonstop motor in Chris Long? That guy amazes me.

Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30

They tried to trade up that high but couldn't do it... they actually had an agreement with the Texans, but the Texans back out... Shanny was targeting Patrick Willis and was trying to get ahead of the 49ers.

Actually, Denver never even spoke to Houston about a trade for their tenth pick the entire offseason.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Why? We had a deal in place to move up to the second pick in the first round with Detroit last year before Calvin Johnson blistered the 40 at the combine, and our draft selection was lower than this years.

We also had deals in place that traded away this years number one pick as well. That was with the Broncos thinking they would be drafting in the late twenties of the first round at minimum Im sure. Its because of that reason that Im thinking that Denver will trade away next years first rounder to get more this year, taking advantage of our place in the draft next year. If theres another team among the other 31 teams in the NFL that thinks we will get worse before we get better, then they will be thinking our draft pick will be higher than it is now.

Perfect time to get a franchise DT like Dorsey dont ya think? Nonstop motor in Chris Long? That guy amazes me.

I hope so war... I wanted Okoye last year so bad... this year I still want a star DT... They are hard to find... just like QB's, but I haven't seen two DT this talented in a long time. Dorsey is my #1, but Ellis wouldn't hurt either.

If we had Dorsey and Thomas in the middle....... My goodness!

No reason Doom can't get 15+ sacks... teams would be stupid to double team him.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Why? We had a deal in place to move up to the second pick in the first round with Detroit last year before Calvin Johnson blistered the 40 at the combine, and our draft selection was lower than this years.

We also had deals in place that traded away this years number one pick as well. That was with the Broncos thinking they would be drafting in the late twenties of the first round at minimum Im sure. Its because of that reason that Im thinking that Denver will trade away next years first rounder to get more this year, taking advantage of our place in the draft next year. If theres another team among the other 31 teams in the NFL that thinks we will get worse before we get better, then they will be thinking our draft pick will be higher than it is now.

Perfect time to get a franchise DT like Dorsey dont ya think? Nonstop motor in Chris Long? That guy amazes me.

I am not comfortable with trading away next year's first round pick. I would feel comfortable in doing that only if this year's draft was stacked, in a huge area of need, with sure-fire can't miss prospects. That is not the case so as of right now I am strongly against trading away next year's first round pick.

Although not in this particular thread I have seen plenty of people complain about trading away a 3rd round pick to get Thomas and you want to ship off a 1st round pick. That could definitely blow up in your face.

I am all for being patient and building through the draft. It will be harder to do so if we continue to squander our draft picks.