Thread: McDaniels not big believer in franchise label

What about franchise coaches?

I'm really surprised McDaniels is so dumbfounded as to what makes a guy a franchise quarterback. It's the guy that the organization to be the starting quarterback long term. He's also the guy you build your offense around. If McDaniels can't grasp that then I don't know what to tell him because I was pretty sure that's why went to all the trouble of drafting Tebow.

Originally Posted by Northman

Give him another couple of years in that system he will do well.

Martz may want out after this year... so Cutler may be stuck with a new coordinator after this year.

I thought I heard they tried to extend Martz and he declined.

Originally Posted by LordTrychon

What about franchise coaches?

No such a thing.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

No such a thing.

That's an interesting thought. We are lacking the Landry/Shula types today. I would think Bill Belichick is about as close as you could get.

Originally Posted by LordTrychon

Martz may want out after this year... so Cutler may be stuck with a new coordinator after this year.

I thought I heard they tried to extend Martz and he declined.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, so where exactly is the line that they cross to become "franchise quarterbacks" or is it something you just "know" like true love?

Originally Posted by robert ethan

Yeah, so where exactly is the line that they cross to become "franchise quarterbacks" or is it something you just "know" like true love?

Your kidding right? It doesnt take long watching guys like Elway, Favre, Brady, Manning, etc to see they are something special.

Originally Posted by Northman

Your kidding right? It doesnt take long watching guys like Elway, Favre, Brady, Manning, etc to see they are something special.

Well, every team in the league passed on Favre in the draft. Then the team that took him traded him away without giving him a chance to play. Brady was the seventh quarterback taken in his draft year and the 200th player overall. I think Brady was almost 25 before he became a starter. No one "watched" and noticed prior to that? You've just named four of the safest, most obvious ones, but Manning and Elway in particular were brutal in their rookie seasons. I think John had worst numbers than Jimmy Clausen did as a rookie. Or as bad, at least. Is Clausen a "franchise quarterback"? Is Matt Cassell who sat on the bench his whole college career and a few years as a pro? Cassell certainly looks to be at least as good as Cutler at this juncture.

Originally Posted by robert ethan

Well, every team in the league passed on Favre in the draft. Then the team that took him traded him away without giving him a chance to play.

He also sat behind Jeff George who was taken by the Falcons and probably making a shitload more money ala the Rivers/Bree's senario.

Brady was the seventh quarterback taken in his draft year and the 200th player overall. I think Brady was almost 25 before he became a starter. No one "watched" and noticed prior to that?

What are they supposed to watch? He was a rookie and sitting behind another #1 QB in Drew Bledsoe. Tom was drafted for depth by the Pats no question about it. But just like Montana when he took over after Bledsoe's injury he showed he was a baller and from there it was history.

You've just named four of the safest, most obvious ones, but Manning and Elway in particular were brutal in their rookie seasons. I think John had worst numbers than Jimmy Clausen did as a rookie. Or as bad, at least.

Both Elway and Manning had a brutal first year. But it didnt take long for both Qb's to show they had the ability to be something special as they quickly lead their teams to positive records in their sophmore seasons.

Is Clausen a "franchise quarterback"? Is Matt Cassell who sat on the bench his whole college career and a few years as a pro?

Clausen has played what? 6 or so games if that? Cassell? Cassell has shown he can play well but he cannot take over a game like a Manning, Brady, or Elway can.

Cassell certainly looks to be at least as good as Cutler at this juncture.

While both have played on similiar teams throughout their career Jay has shown he is a better overall player by his ability to comeback in games. He has 15 4th quarter comebacks to just 6 for Cassell. 12 of them in the same timeframe from when Cassell took over for Brady. Bottom line, i dont see the same intangibles in Cassell as i do in Cutler. And while Jay still has some problems to overcome i see far more upside with him as a playmaker as i do Cassell. I would also be willing to bet that Cassell has played with a better Oline and running game while in NE and KC.

Originally Posted by Softskull

That's an interesting thought. We are lacking the Landry/Shula types today. I would think Bill Belichick is about as close as you could get.

You had three (Belichick, Shanahan and Fisher) less then two years ago.

I LOVE old threads!

Originally Posted by sneakers

I LOVE old threads!

So do I. McDaniels wasn't a big believer except for...McDaniels.