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    I'm suddenly more positive about possible DTs. Most of the guys I like would have been totally wasted by Bates. Ellis in the 1st or Moore in the 2nd is more appealing now.

    This should also hopefully give Marcus Thomas a chance to actually play with his full arsenal, however, so we might not need as much DT revamping as we think. The right guy could make Peterson and Crowder more effective too.

    Assuming it's not Slowik.

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    Ellis and Thomas! wow! Or Dorsey and Thomas if Dorsey was to fall for any dumb reason..WOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    I'm suddenly more positive about possible DTs. Most of the guys I like would have been totally wasted by Bates. Ellis in the 1st or Moore in the 2nd is more appealing now.

    This should also hopefully give Marcus Thomas a chance to actually play with his full arsenal, however, so we might not need as much DT revamping as we think. The right guy could make Peterson and Crowder more effective too.

    Assuming it's not Slowik.

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    Excellent points. Although I am less opposed to drafting Ellis, I still think there are more pressing needs than DT in the first round...especially considering there is a good chance Ellis will be gone by 12
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30 View Post
    Ellis and Thomas! wow! Or Dorsey and Thomas if Dorsey was to fall for any dumb reason..WOW!

    Yep............This is good news today........... Ellis could very well make it to 12.............Could Moss still play Linebacker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyDiver View Post
    Yep............This is good news today........... Ellis could very well make it to 12.............Could Moss still play Linebacker?
    I think Moss will add weight and stay at defensive end. If Moss shows us he can be an every down contributor, I wouldn't be surprised if Doom moves to linebacker or becomes trade bate, that is if Denver drafts a guy like Ellis or Dorsey to play next to Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30 View Post
    I think Moss will add weight and stay at defensive end. If Moss shows us he can be an every down contributor, I wouldn't be surprised if Doom moves to linebacker or becomes trade bate, that is if Denver drafts a guy like Ellis or Dorsey to play next to Thomas.
    Moss wasn't an every-down contributor last year and blew out his knee something fierce.

    And he was considered a pass-rush specialist when he was drafted, just as Doom is now.

    Let's see some actual production and health from Moss before we even begin to contemplate trading the only pass-rush threat we have, despite his limitations. That's 2 years away, IMO, not one.

    I also don't think Moss or Doom can go to OLB, so we should still look for help there.

    Which is why I'd still rather go LB in the first as Chaz says rather than DT, even with a potentially different scheme (if Slowik gets the job, who can say?).

    Laurinaitis or Maualuga (if he comes out) over Ellis or any non-Dorsey DT, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    Moss wasn't an every-down contributor last year and blew out his knee something fierce.

    And he was considered a pass-rush specialist when he was drafted, just as Doom is now.

    Let's see some actual production and health from Moss before we even begin to contemplate trading the only pass-rush threat we have, despite his limitations. That's 2 years away, IMO, not one.

    I also don't think Moss or Doom can go to OLB, so we should still look for help there.

    Which is why I'd still rather go LB in the first as Chaz says rather than DT, even with a potentially different scheme (if Slowik gets the job, who can say?).

    Laurinaitis or Maualuga (if he comes out) over Ellis or any non-Dorsey DT, IMO.

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    I though he broke his leg and ligament injuries to his ankle?.............Not knee.

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    Since Moss was brought in to play in Bates defense, I think we should trade Moss. He won't be as good in a base 4-3 defense. Yes MB, I know he played the 4-3 at Florida, but that doesn't make him an automatic 4-3 stud DE in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30 View Post
    Since Moss was brought in to play in Bates defense, I think we should trade Moss. He won't be as good in a base 4-3 defense. Yes MB, I know he played the 4-3 at Florida, but that doesn't make him an automatic 4-3 stud DE in the NFL.
    Maybe after seeing him in camp in a new scheme, but his talent is undeniable and I'd like to get a better look at him before dumping him for nothing. If he can't work in a 4-3, he's screwed, because he definately has no place in a 3-4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Maybe after seeing him in camp in a new scheme, but his talent is undeniable and I'd like to get a better look at him before dumping him for nothing. If he can't work in a 4-3, he's screwed, because he definately has no place in a 3-4.
    Why can't he work in a 4-3? He played in a 4-3 his entire college career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slim View Post
    Why can't he work in a 4-3? He played in a 4-3 his entire college career.
    it says IF he can't work in a 4-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    it says IF he can't work in a 4-3.

    Read all the words, bubba
    Just a simple question...jeeze, you would think I was Dream or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by slim View Post
    Just a simple question...jeeze, you would think I was Dream or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyDiver View Post
    I though he broke his leg and ligament injuries to his ankle?.............Not knee.
    Yeah, leg and ankle, sorry - was in a hurry.

    So blew out his ankle and busted his leg something fierce.

    I hope he has a better rehab than I did - my ankle's still jacked up after tearing ligaments in it a decade ago.

    Gives me more time to sit on my ass and armchair QB tho.

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