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    Again, just me and Scar here...and a bunch of banners, trophies and rings.

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    Spurs Mailbag: To trade or not to trade
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    CLEVELAND – All of a sudden, Spurs fans are Laker blue over the Pau Gasol trade, as they are scratching their heads over Shaquille O’Neal’s second move westward from Florida.

    The acquisition of Damon Stoudamire was nice. But Spurs fans (apparently) want Mike Miller. Or Corey Maggette. Or Andres Nocioni.

    If the names of random marginal NBA players are zipping through the Internet between Spurs fans’ parents’ basements and the laptop belonging to the Mailbag, it must be trade deadline season.

    Teams have less than two weeks, until Feb. 21, to play “Let’s Make a Deal.” Whether the Spurs will be active or inert in the market remains to be seen.

    Last season, coach Gregg Popovich went on record in January saying his team wouldn’t be swinging any deals. He refuses to say the same this year, if for no other reason than just to keep us all on our toes.

    “I thought that was pretty cool when I did that last year,” Popovich said. “Now I feel like I have to top it or something.”

    Somehow, we think there’s no need for Tim Duncan to put his house on the market. But at least it’s safe to say the Spurs haven’t ruled themselves out of trade discussions.

    “We talk to everybody just like all other 29 teams,” Popovich said. “If something comes along and it makes sense for us, we’ll do it.”

    That’s a big if.

    The Spurs have most of their money tied up in three players they have no interest in moving – Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. Their best bargaining chip, Brent Barry (who has an expiring contract worth about $5.5 million), is injured.

    Then there’s the question of what kind of player the Spurs could land anyway.

    Judging from our e-mail inbox, several Spurs fans wanted their team to make a run at Suns-turned-Heat-player Shawn Marion. One emailer even suggested a trade that would have sent Michael Finley, Jacque Vaughn, Brent Barry, Robert Horry, Francisco Elson and (ostensibly) a partridge in a pear tree to Phoenix to get him.

    We’ll ignore the obvious questions -- why would the Suns want all these players? Are they hoping to use some as ringers on Phoenix’s WNBA team – and move on to another: Why would the Spurs want Shawn Marion?

    Isn’t that like willingly agreeing to contract cancer?

    Marion was somewhat of a malcontent in Phoenix, perpetually pouting over a lack of respect, either real or perceived. How do you think he would respond to playing fourth fiddle to Duncan, Ginobili and Parker in San Antonio?

    Of course, with Finley, et al gone, there would be plenty of shots to go around.

    Now, on to more questions from you …

    My question is about Bruce Bowen. He in one of my favorites but in this season he isn’t producing for the team like other years. Don’t you think (Ime) Udoka is a better player right now and deserve more minutes??

    -- Fernando, Buenos Aires

    Finally, a letter from Argentina that doesn’t call for more minutes for Manu. Bowen is getting older, sure, but it’s probably unfair to say he’s completely slipped. I can think of a couple of games in the past month he has basically won for the Spurs with his individual defense (vs. Dwyane Wade and Miami; vs. Jamal Crawford and the Knicks, to name two).

    The truth is, Udoka is getting more minutes, and he deserves them. But Bowen remains the Spurs’ most valuable defensive stopper.


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    How much longer will Pop coach the Spurs if they don’t have that superstar in the middle? I mean we have been blessed these past 18 years. What’s going to happen when Tim Duncan is retired and there’s no one to clog the middle?

    -- Josh, Seguin

    Our guess: If Duncan were to retire on a Sunday morning, Popovich will retire before brunch.


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    A lot of the things that Pop has always preached do not appear to be happening -- rebounding, protecting the ball, and movement. Is this due to all of the injuries or all of the experimentation with lineups? Although I am not worried yet, I will be if this continues. Is Pop concerned about what position the Spurs could get by the playoffs?

    -- D. Johnson, San Antonio

    On the list of things Gregg Popovich cares passionately about, playoff seeding ranks just above the Silver Dancers’ halftime routine – but barely. He wouldn’t turn down the top seed, but he won’t kill his team to get it, either.

    During the course of a 7-game series, the best team is given ample chances to win, either at home or away. The key is just getting to the postseason, which ought to be no small feat this season. Right now, five games separate winning the Western Conference from missing the playoffs altogether. Should be a fun second half.


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    While I think this was a great move by the Suns getting Shaq, would you say it was a panic move following the Spurs win against them last week?

    -- Kevin, San Antonio

    The Suns apparently believed they weren’t going to win an NBA title as constructed, which is an odd thing for a team winning the West to believe. However, they were probably right.

    Every year, the Suns seem to peter out in the playoffs, when you have to be able to grind out a game or two during the course of a 7-game series. The Spurs have owned the Suns over the past several seasons, in part because Amare Stoudemire couldn’t guard the snack bar from Kate Moss. Adding O’Neal might not net the Suns a title, but what did they really have to lose? Besides G.M. Steve Kerr’s job, we mean.



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    Did the Lakers outthink the Spurs on the Gasol trade? Seems like that's a trade they should have done. Never mind the excuses that trade needs to get done.

    -- Ray, San Antonio

    The Lakers had a key bargaining chip to make that deal work: A $9 million waste of space named Kwame Brown. Nobody on the Spurs makes that much except for Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. Even if R.C. Buford went temporarily insane and decided to deal one of those players, none of them have expiring contracts – so the cost-slashing Grizzlies wouldn’t have wanted them anyway.



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    OK, I understand that the Suns don't need five guys for a fast break but how efficient their fast break will be when the officials stop it because the opponent uses the Hack-a-Shaq?

    -- Daniel, Budapest

    That’s actually an interesting point. Somebody get Don Nelson on the phone.



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    Ginobili is a really good sport. I live in DC and attended last night’s game. During a timeout the Wizards events people were doing a silly “kiss-cam” and put the camera on the Spurs bench, on Oberto and Ginobili. Ginobili noticed it and kissed Oberto on the cheek. The crowd got a great laugh.

    -- A.W., Washington, D.C.

    We’re guessing that made for a more appropriate kiss-cam moment than Isiah Thomas and Stephon Marbury. Or Marbury and a certain Knicks intern.

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    Yeah go AWAY Spurs, go AWAY!!!






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    and who do you like in the NBA?

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    I lived in San Antonio during the David Robinson, Sean Elliott era. Larry Brown, Bob Hill. I still have the famous Iceman poster somewhere.

    Been a fan ever since. You and Scar are not alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    and who do you like in the NBA?


    Used to be Atlanta when (IMO the best) Dominique played. After he moved overseas, I sort of stopped watching the NBA. After the Nugs actually found out how to win I have been supporting them.....yeah call me bandwagon, but I have always claimed to ONLY be a BRONCOS fan!!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by AlWilsonizKING View Post
    Used to be Atlanta when (IMO the best) Dominique played. After he moved overseas, I sort of stopped watching the NBA. After the Nugs actually found out how to win I have been supporting them.....yeah call me bandwagon, but I have always claimed to ONLY be a BRONCOS fan!!!!!



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    It's cool...I never begrudge someone who isn't a true fan of the sport the ability to have a wandering eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    It's cool...I never begrudge someone who isn't a true fan of the sport the ability to have a wandering eye.
    Don't get me wrong I love to PLAY the game and have a killer shot (no lie, any takers) I just can't get into watching it.



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    I was actually a Laker fan when I was little...LOVED Byron Scott. Then I saw David Robinson hold up that Spurs jersey on draft day and Immediately fell in love. My first NBA game was Spurs @ Cavs at Richfield Coliseum. Then my aunt moved to SA when I was in high school and I got to go down and see some games in person.

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    Yeah that's another reason I do not like the Spurs....a good friend of mine was a HUGE D.R. fan and would ALWAYS sport the jersey when we played....just grew to hate it/him/the team..hehe



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    Ginobili nails eight 3s, scores 46 points in Finals rematch vs. Cavs


    CLEVELAND (AP) -- Manu Ginobili made a career-high eight 3-pointers and scored a season-high 46 points as the San Antonio Spurs, back on the floor where they won the NBA title last season, downed the Cleveland Cavaliers 112-105 on Wednesday night.

    Hitting shots from every corner of the floor, Ginobili scored 18 points in the fourth quarter, making 4-of-4 3-pointers. The Spurs went 7-of-8 on 3s and shot a blistering 78 percent (14-of-18) in the final 12 minutes.

    Even when San Antonio missed, and that wasn't often, the Spurs outhustled the Cavaliers to loose balls.

    Tim Duncan added 23 points and 13 rebounds for the Spurs, who completed their annual rodeo road trip at 6-3.

    LeBron James scored 39 points -- 18 in the fourth -- but Cleveland's superstar was again no match for the Spurs, who swept the Cavaliers in last June's finals. James added nine assists and six rebounds in 43 minutes.

    Larry Hughes added 26 points for the Cavs, who went ahead 91-89 on James' 3-pointer with 5:57 remaining.

    That's when Ginobili, who also had eight assists and five rebounds, began taking target practice.

    The Argentinean's second 3-pointer of the period made it 92-91, and after James gave the Cavaliers their final lead at 95-94 with a layup, San Antonio defensive specialist Bruce Bowen made a 3-pointer and Ginobili drained another.

    After James misfired on a 3, Ginobili drained his fourth 3 of the quarter to make it 103-95 with 3:10 left, a shot that drew gasps from the sellout crowd.

    Ginobili, who was coming off a 34-point performance in a win over Toronto, has made 19 3-pointers in his past three games while helping the Spurs offset the absence of guard Tony Parker. The finals MVP missed his eighth straight game with a bone spur in his left heel.

    With Ginobili shooting like this, Parker can take as long as he needs to get well.

    It didn't seem to matter where the smooth left-hander's shots came from, they all hit the bottom of the net.

    While getting swept in his first trip to the finals by the Spurs was tough, it didn't crush James.

    "It definitely hurt to lose and not being able to compete the way we had," he said before the game. "But we got beat by a better team. They were head and shoulders better than us, so it wasn't a hard pill for me to swallow.

    "If it was a team we knew we should have beat, it would have been hard."

    James used the sweep as motivation in the offseason to get better and get back to the finals.

    With Hughes making his first five shots, the Cavaliers controlled the Spurs for much of the first half. They opened a 12-point lead and were still ahead 47-40 when James ran down Duncan from behind and appeared to block the center's layup cleanly.

    But James was called for a foul, and he compounded things when he was whistled for his first technical this season. Duncan made three free throws, hit a jumper and Ginobili made a free throw as San Antonio closed the first half with an 8-0 spurt to pull within 47-46 at the break.

    Ginobili scored 18 points in the first half.

    Game notes
    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich wasn't sure how much James had improved since the end of last season. "I always thought he was ridiculously amazing," he said. ... Although he's among the leading candidates to win MVP honors, James feels he's a longshot. After all, Kobe Bryant's waiting for his first award. "I know I got no chance if Kobe Bryant has never won it," he said. ... Cavs G Daniel Gibson missed his fourth straight game a strained hamstring. ... Jason Kidd's apparent trade back to Dallas thrilled Cavs coach Mike Brown. "I don't mind those triple-doubles going over the West side."

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    So the Spurs ened up 6-3 on their 9 game eastern road trip. I'd say that's pretty damn solid given the fact that Parker is out and they were being written off no less than 3 weeks ago.

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    Me at the NBA Finals last year...dam I look fat in that pic.

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    Went inside right along Franco...

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