Thread: Bo Nix played with a fracture in his back :O

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Broncos get best QB they have had in a decade, kid exceeds expectations.

Meanwhile Jaded: pssssh, **** that guy.

Good to see some things never change.

If I wanted to write a rebuttal to this, I’d have a hard time selling it after Jaded High-5ed it

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

Prove it. Don’t just tell me I’m wrong, show me, explain it to me like I’m 6-3/215 with stupid hair?

I went back and watched every game, he literally avoids velocity throws. He’s dumping it off before route concepts have a chance to develop, I can remember 3 deep outs all season long, it is facts.

The TD throw to Mims that went 50 yards in the air down the seam against the Browns was on a line. He also had the longest completion in the air in the NFL this year, 67 yards in the air. He had another completion go 65 yards in the air. There was also a drop by Frankin that went 65 yards in the air. He has a lot more arm talent than I thought he did coming out of Oregon.

I would assume we’ll see more deep outs this coming season as Payton looses the reins a little bit.

What’s really encouraging to me is he got better as the year went on. Usually the first year isn’t like that for rookie’s quarterbacks; typically defenses figure out their limitations in the second half of the season.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

The TD throw to Mims that went 50 yards in the air down the seam against the Browns was on a line. He also had the longest completion in the air in the NFL this year, 67 yards in the air. He had another completion go 65 yards in the air. There was also a drop by Frankin that went 65 yards in the air. He has a lot more arm talent than I thought he did coming out of Oregon.

I would assume we’ll see more deep outs this coming season as Payton looses the reins a little bit.

What’s really encouraging to me is he got better as the year went on. Usually the first year isn’t like that for rookie’s quarterbacks; typically defenses figure out their limitations in the second half of the season.

Jaded is going to Jaded. It’s his thing. It’s like having a really shitty 80s era Toyota Tercel. It was loud, smelled bad, and was ugly as hell but it would never, ever, stop.

Originally Posted by Davii

Jaded is going to Jaded. It’s his thing. It’s like having a really shitty 80s era Toyota Tercel. It was loud, smelled bad, and was ugly as hell but it would never, ever, stop.

Like the dodge colt we drove around Phoenix when I was a kid. No AC in Phoenix for like 5 years. I've been to hell, I was raised there. So while reading Jaded's Bo Nix takes can be upsetting it is not quite as bad as listening to Reo Speedwagon in a dodge Colt with black interior and no A/C in AUGUST!

If I’m wrong Nix hasn’t proven it yet.

Y’all can fall for the banana in the tailpipe but to this point the only difference between Trevor Siemien and Bo Nix is Gary Kubiak and Sean Payton.

I may end up being wrong, but this kid is a thoroughly JAG talent so far. One pass to Marvin Mims is not a Franchise QB made, the difficult Josh Allen passes are not there and he’s nobody’s idea of Joe Burrow v2.0.

Plus, he reminds me of Jamie Dutton with stupid hair. Trust the science.

Why do you think the 49ers are struggling to extend Brock Purdy? The law of diminishing returns is the biggest concern with game manager QBs.

If Trey Lance stayed healthy and panned the 49ers would’ve already extended him, but Purdy is a game manager and the 49ers know it.

If the 49ers were smart they’d franchise tag Purdy into the next 3 years, but this is what they get for not wanting to develop a better prospect.

lol. Imagine having one of the best rookie seasons ever and some guy on the internet with zero football pedigree thinks you suck. Poor Bo…

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

If I’m wrong Nix hasn’t proven it yet.

Y’all can fall for the banana in the tailpipe but to this point the only difference between Trevor Siemien and Bo Nix is Gary Kubiak and Sean Payton.

I may end up being wrong, but this kid is a thoroughly JAG talent so far. One pass to Marvin Mims is not a Franchise QB made, the difficult Josh Allen passes are not there and he’s nobody’s idea of Joe Burrow v2.0.

Plus, he reminds me of Jamie Dutton with stupid hair. Trust the science.

Why do you think the 49ers are struggling to extend Brock Purdy? The law of diminishing returns is the biggest concern with game manager QBs.

I cited 3 passes not one; all of which demonstrate at least better than average arm talent at the least even to a skeptic. Convincing a cynic is another matter entirely. :-)

His physical talent is far beyond any of those game managers you mentioned. He is obviously not Josh Allen, but if that’s your litmus test than neither is anyone else on planet earth save half a dozen men on the planet between the ages of 23-33.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Like the dodge colt we drove around Phoenix when I was a kid. No AC in Phoenix for like 5 years. I've been to hell, I was raised there. So while reading Jaded's Bo Nix takes can be upsetting it is not quite as bad as listening to Reo Speedwagon in a dodge Colt with black interior and no A/C in AUGUST!

Was it time for you to fly?

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

If I’m wrong Nix hasn’t proven it yet.

Y’all can fall for the banana in the tailpipe but to this point the only difference between Trevor Siemien and Bo Nix is Gary Kubiak and Sean Payton.

I may end up being wrong, but this kid is a thoroughly JAG talent so far. One pass to Marvin Mims is not a Franchise QB made, the difficult Josh Allen passes are not there and he’s nobody’s idea of Joe Burrow v2.0.

Plus, he reminds me of Jamie Dutton with stupid hair. Trust the science.

Why do you think the 49ers are struggling to extend Brock Purdy? The law of diminishing returns is the biggest concern with game manager QBs.

"If"

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Was it time for you to fly?

What's even worse, my mother God rest her soul loved REO Speedwagon and Air Supply. I literally just shuddered a little as I typed the words "Air Supply" hold me Timmy.

Originally Posted by Skinny

How does the creator of this stat list define “deep pass?” When breaking up passes attempted and completed by depth range, I hear a lot of game commentators lump everything that’s 20+ yards together in one category. Correct me if I’m wrong; but can’t your average high school QB complete passes of at least 20 yards? So, if that’s what the stat list creator means by “deep pass,” I assume agree with Jaded that this not that impressive of a feat.

Back in 1984, I bought an advanced football board game, APBA, along with the 1983 season cards. A couple of years later, I bought the 1985 card set. I’ve included the link to their website so you can see what kind of game I’m referring to:
https://apbagames.com/football

They had 4 different passing depths: screen, short (less than 15 yards), medium (15-30 yards) and long (over 30 yards). Meanwhile, there were game commentators that advocate just throwing the ball about 50 yards down field, even if its not completed, just to put it in the heads of the D that you can do it. Therefore, although I’d acknowledge that 20 yards is a good measure in as far as it being a distance that can be complete at what I’d consider a high enough rate, I don’t find such stat at all impressive in terms of demonstrating arm strength.

So, how would I measure arm strength? The ability to hit receivers…

1) …in tight coverage on a regular basis.
2) …40+ yards down the field a couple of times per game.

Whether or not the receivers fail to do their job by dropping the ball is beside the point. The question when evaluating any aspect of a QB is, can he do his job? As far as whether or not Bo can meet my standards, I haven’t been able to watch enough of his games to know. Some of you are saying, yes, he has hit what I’d consider deep passes on several occasions, while Jaded is insisting on them not happening often enough. Although I have no way to objectively assess the case both side are making, I do want to leave this conversation by pointing out that the HC & OC both make decisions that impact how often their QBs can even attempt what I’d consider a deep pass.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

How does the creator of this stat list define “deep pass?” When breaking up passes attempted and completed by depth range, I hear a lot of game commentators lump everything that’s 20+ yards together in one category. Correct me if I’m wrong; but can’t your average high school QB complete passes of at least 20 yards? So, if that’s what the stat list creator means by “deep pass,” I assume agree with Jaded that this not that impressive of a feat.

Back in 1984, I bought an advanced football board game, APBA, along with the 1983 season cards. A couple of years later, I bought the 1985 card set. I’ve included the link to their website so you can see what kind of game I’m referring to:
https://apbagames.com/football

They had 4 different passing depths: screen, short (less than 15 yards), medium (15-30 yards) and long (over 30 yards). Meanwhile, there were game commentators that advocate just throwing the ball about 50 yards down field, even if its not completed, just to put it in the heads of the D that you can do it. Therefore, although I’d acknowledge that 20 yards is a good measure in as far as it being a distance that can be complete at what I’d consider a high enough rate, I don’t find such stat at all impressive in terms of demonstrating arm strength.

So, how would I measure arm strength? The ability to hit receivers…

1) …in tight coverage on a regular basis.
2) …40+ yards down the field a couple of times per game.

Whether or not the receivers fail to do their job by dropping the ball is beside the point. The question when evaluating any aspect of a QB is, can he do his job? As far as whether or not Bo can meet my standards, I haven’t been able to watch enough of his games to know. Some of you are saying, yes, he has hit what I’d consider deep passes on several occasions, while Jaded is insisting on them not happening often enough. Although I have no way to objectively assess the case both side are making, I do want to leave this conversation by pointing out that the HC & OC both make decisions that impact how often their QBs can even attempt what I’d consider a deep pass.

Jaded would argue the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

What's even worse, my mother God rest her soul loved REO Speedwagon and Air Supply. I literally just shuddered a little as I typed the words "Air Supply" hold me Timmy.

Last week on one occasion I woke up with Wheel in the Sky in my head. I blame you for this.