Thread: Don't trade PS2. Don't suggest trading him. Your hot take is bad.

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

PS2 is hugely popular among current and former CB’s, he’s legit.

I'm not saying he isn't legit. He is easily our best player I totally understand that. He was ranked anywhere from 2 to 5 on most preseason lists of best CBs and I agree with that assessment, but production on the field has him much closer to that 5 ranking than that of #1. He had a forgettable year in terms of production on the field for a "shutdown" corner. If we had a defensive coordinator who wasn't a literal moron he would have had a better season. He is misused by VJ IMHO. I can't stand seeing PS2 playing 8-12 yds off the WR. This is another reason I'd be for trading him if the haul was enough, VJ doesn't know what the **** to do with a shutdown corner anyway.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I'm not saying he isn't legit. He is easily our best player I totally understand that. He was ranked anywhere from 2 to 5 on most preseason lists of best CBs and I agree with that assessment, but production on the field has him much closer to that 5 ranking than that of #1. He had a forgettable year in terms of production on the field for a "shutdown" corner. If we had a defensive coordinator who wasn't a literal moron he would have had a better season. He is misused by VJ IMHO. I can't stand seeing PS2 playing 8-12 yds off the WR. This is another reason I'd be for trading him if the haul was enough, VJ doesn't know what the **** to do with a shutdown corner anyway.

I don’t think PS2 is best utilized in so much zone, either. But I’ve said it many times; if a player like PS2 doesn’t fit your system then the problem is your system.

Do we take a flier on Rattler? trade back and just get him plus an extra pick?

Originally Posted by Bronco Yoda

Do we take a flier on Rattler? trade back and just get him plus an extra pick?

No. Bo is the way. I know that's not the popular pick but I really think it's a good match.

I'm afraid of a big trade up for JJ. I'd be as excited as the next guy and be rooting for McCarthyism even more than I already do but I'd be worried that we traded a shit ton of capital for a game manager type.

I can go along with this as long as he's a good fit for our new Offense.


I wonder how Bo would like throwing to Luke McCaffrey

Originally Posted by chazoe60

No. Bo is the way. I know that's not the popular pick but I really think it's a good match.

I'm afraid of a big trade up for JJ. I'd be as excited as the next guy and be rooting for McCarthyism even more than I already do but I'd be worried that we traded a shit ton of capital for a game manager type.

Did Oregon quarterback Bo Nix just give Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton his elevator pitch? http://https://www.msn.com/en-us/spo...def11206&ei=18

Anyone but penix jnr

But honestly - it would not surprise me if they trade back and don’t take a qb early - this off season reeks of tanking for a qb next year

Originally Posted by Bronco Yoda

Did Oregon quarterback Bo Nix just give Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton his elevator pitch? http://https://www.msn.com/en-us/spo...def11206&ei=18

I'm convinced that Bo's agent has coached him up with an emphasis on targeting the Broncos. He has answered everything in a way that seems to be saying "hey Sean Payton, all those things you say you value highly O do all of them". And if you watch the tape and listen to guys like Cosell and Ferrar, Chris Simms, Chase Daniel it's not that the kid is lying he really is strong at those things SP says he covets, but I do believe he is emphasizing them with a specific goal in mind.

I also find it interesting that some of the other QBs have specifically mentioned how hard the Broncos interview was while Bo just said "I won't get into specifics" and went on to talk about the fun and more goofy side of the interview with the shoe size question. I don't think they took it easy on him, I just think he's the type of guy that isn't going to bring it up and I bet SP likes that.

I just think it's going to be him and I think it's going to work. My optimism is high and probably higher than it should be as far as this kid goes but IDC, I get to be irrational about football, it's harmless and better for my mental health to think positively so that's what I'm doing.

I'll also be this way with any of the top 6 guys if we're able to land them. I see things I love about all of them.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Anyone but penix jnr

you know it's bad when dave doesn't want penix

Originally Posted by aberdien

you know it's bad when dave doesn't want penix

He's not fooling anyone!

Do want penix - just don’t want him as our qb

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I'm convinced that Bo's agent has coached him up with an emphasis on targeting the Broncos. He has answered everything in a way that seems to be saying "hey Sean Payton, all those things you say you value highly O do all of them". And if you watch the tape and listen to guys like Cosell and Ferrar, Chris Simms, Chase Daniel it's not that the kid is lying he really is strong at those things SP says he covets, but I do believe he is emphasizing them with a specific goal in mind.

I also find it interesting that some of the other QBs have specifically mentioned how hard the Broncos interview was while Bo just said "I won't get into specifics" and went on to talk about the fun and more goofy side of the interview with the shoe size question. I don't think they took it easy on him, I just think he's the type of guy that isn't going to bring it up and I bet SP likes that.

I just think it's going to be him and I think it's going to work. My optimism is high and probably higher than it should be as far as this kid goes but IDC, I get to be irrational about football, it's harmless and better for my mental health to think positively so that's what I'm doing.

I'll also be this way with any of the top 6 guys if we're able to land them. I see things I love about all of them.

You just know his agent was all over that one!

I just want a functioning cohesive offense that can score some points. I'll ask for exciting and fun later on if we somehow get there. We've been so dysfunctional for so long now.

For a total rebuild, I'm still really looking forward to this season. Probably a new QB, new uniforms , new offense. LFG!!!!

ok, I'm in a mood.

We are so behind the curve. Total rebuild.

I'm interested in a PS2 trade to either Buffalo or Bengals. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A KC THREE-PEAT! screw dat!

PS2 next contract is going to be a monster and we're in no position to block KC this year or next.

How many picks you think we could get in a PS2 right now? He'd be a difference maker for either of these teams in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Bronco Yoda

ok, I'm in a mood.

We are so behind the curve. Total rebuild.

I'm interested in a PS2 trade to either Buffalo or Bengals. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A KC THREE-PEAT! screw dat!

PS2 next contract is going to be a monster and we're in no position to block KC this year or next.

How many picks you think we could get in a PS2 right now? He'd be a difference maker for either of these teams in the playoffs.

I think if we traded him to a contender drafting later in the 1st we could possibly get the 2 firsts mentioned a lot. If it's for a trade up he would just be the cherry on top to help us get over Minnesota's offer to a team.

If we do trade him I think it would be wise to target a team like Philly or SF. Maybe get a late 1 and a future 1 which would help us get a blue chip QB this year or give us more ammo for next year. Not sure I love that idea or not. I have said all along I only want to trade him if it gives us the chance at a FQB.

We'll see what happens. My optimism over this franchise has never been lower. I really hate that we went on that stupid meaningless run last year. So much of that run was plain dumb luck too, fumbles bouncing out way like I've never seen, Russ dropping passes right where they need to be and once in a generation type catches.

The football gods hate us and have decided to punish us for eternity.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I think if we traded him to a contender drafting later in the 1st we could possibly get the 2 firsts mentioned a lot. If it's for a trade up he would just be the cherry on top to help us get over Minnesota's offer to a team.

If we do trade him I think it would be wise to target a team like Philly or SF. Maybe get a late 1 and a future 1 which would help us get a blue chip QB this year or give us more ammo for next year. Not sure I love that idea or not. I have said all along I only want to trade him if it gives us the chance at a FQB.

We'll see what happens. My optimism over this franchise has never been lower. I really hate that we went on that stupid meaningless run last year. So much of that run was plain dumb luck too, fumbles bouncing out way like I've never seen, Russ dropping passes right where they need to be and once in a generation type catches.

The football gods hate us and have decided to punish us for eternity.

Right now I just want to stop KC!!!!

We can't do it.

If it will guarantee a franchise QB... then do it! But I really, really, really, want to block KC's rule over the Lombardi. And we simply can't do it. ...then help someone else do it while helping ourselves rebuild quicker. (and I'm willing to take weaker picks trading to a team that will keep KC in check)

Kill two birds... no, three birds with one stone.