Thread: No surviving: Vance Joseph new Defensive Coordinator

BREAKING!!!
Wednesday practices are back on the menu folks!!!

I'm far too humble to gloat about being right so I won't do that! I guess we just have to hope that VJ wasn't the problem in AZ and will keep the defense up to the standard we are used to.

Our practices will be legendary. This team needs to be on Amazon All of Nothing. I have never been so hype for Wednesday practice.

It's possible Rex Ryan wasn't serious about becoming a DC and just wanted contract leverage with ESPN to stay in the news. Matt Patricia is TERRIBLE and by all accounts a terrible human being to have in an NFL locker room, so if it was Patricia or VJ I would much rather have VJ. Desai would have been a good hire but head coaches got to sink or swim with who they trust. VJ was not as good as Fangio, but he seemed more willing to adapt his scheme to his players. VJ also isn't actively badmouthed by players the way that Patricia is, there at least seems to be some respect for him.

I think things will be okay.

Oof. This doesn't please me. Here's hoping our D plays AT LEAST as well as they did with him as HC but hopefully better. If he's still here in 3 years it's either working or Payton doesn't like to fire people!

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

It's possible Rex Ryan wasn't serious about becoming a DC and just wanted contract leverage with ESPN to stay in the news. Matt Patricia is TERRIBLE and by all accounts a terrible human being to have in an NFL locker room, so if it was Patricia or VJ I would much rather have VJ. Desai would have been a good hire but head coaches got to sink or swim with who they trust. VJ was not as good as Fangio, but he seemed more willing to adapt his scheme to his players. VJ also isn't actively badmouthed by players the way that Patricia is, there at least seems to be some respect for him.

I think things will be okay.

I feel like VJ will be an ok coach, not a complete disaster like Patricia, but I don't expect we'll keep seeing the top 5 type defenses we were used to under guys like Wade, Fangio, and Evero. But I suppose we will see.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

It's possible Rex Ryan wasn't serious about becoming a DC and just wanted contract leverage with ESPN to stay in the news. Matt Patricia is TERRIBLE and by all accounts a terrible human being to have in an NFL locker room, so if it was Patricia or VJ I would much rather have VJ. Desai would have been a good hire but head coaches got to sink or swim with who they trust. VJ was not as good as Fangio, but he seemed more willing to adapt his scheme to his players. VJ also isn't actively badmouthed by players the way that Patricia is, there at least seems to be some respect for him.

I think things will be okay.

The players really did seem to like VJ, so I guess there's that. I think Desai was probably my preferred candidate out of those we know interviewed but, then again, I'm not a coach or GM so my opinion means very little as a fan. Results need to follow.

I guess if Payton really is able to deliver a top 5 type offense like he typically did in New Orleans, and VJ can keep the defense middle of the pack, we can live with that. Pressure really will be on the offense now to live up to that though. Can't expect the D to keep carrying the team anymore.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I feel like VJ will be an ok coach, not a complete disaster like Patricia, but I don't expect we'll keep seeing the top 5 type defenses we were used to under guys like Wade, Fangio, and Evero. But I suppose we will see.

Agreed. Personally I have no expectations of a top 5 D, I would LOVE top 10, but will lose my shit if we're worse than 15.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I guess if Payton really is able to deliver a top 5 type offense like he typically did in New Orleans, and VJ can keep the defense middle of the pack, we can live with that. Pressure really will be on the offense now to live up to that though. Can't expect the D to keep carrying the team anymore.

Yeah, fully aligned here. If we can get a top 5 and middle or better D we will be a contender. Top 5 O and top 10 D? Maybe too much to expect?

Originally Posted by Davii

Agreed. Personally I have no expectations of a top 5 D, I would LOVE top 10, but will lose my shit if we're worse than 15.

Yeah given the talent on this defense, anything less than being in the 10-15 range will be a disaster.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Yeah given the talent on this defense, anything less than being in the 10-15 range will be a disaster.

Let's just hope they can stay healthy this year!

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Let's just hope they can stay healthy this year!

Hopefully shooting the old strength and conditioning and training staffs into the sun will help with that.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Hopefully shooting the old strength and conditioning and training staffs into the sun will help with that.

I don't remember VJ's teams having as many injuries during his run here. It's probably because the practices were so intense that they kept the players in great shape! With VJ back, we won't have as many injuries due to our great weeks of practice.