Thread: No surviving: Vance Joseph new Defensive Coordinator

Originally Posted by Buff

I hate everything about this move. VJ doesn't bring a strong philosophy or identity, he's already lost the confidence of Broncos fans, and his track record as a DC sucks. Given all the interviews and the timing - it reeks of a desperation hire, the least bad coach laying around in the scrap heap.

In hindsight we might have been better off just holding Evero to his contract and kicking the can down the road another year.

Originally Posted by Buff

I hate everything about this move. VJ doesn't bring a strong philosophy or identity, he's already lost the confidence of Broncos fans, and his track record as a DC sucks. Given all the interviews and the timing - it reeks of a desperation hire, the least bad coach laying around in the scrap heap.

What do you mean no philosophy??? His philosophy is no surviving. VJ is a LEADER OF MEN. A++++++++++ hiring. With the diversity in his background as a former QB, defensive backs coach, and head coach, VJ will be having the time of his life!

Not super excited by the hire, but I can admit VJ has more knowledge of defense in his little finger than I do. I was kinda hoping if it wasn’t Rex, we might get a guy like Zimmer. We’ll see how it goes. At least it tempers the expectations for the Broncos and the defense a little bit. Had we landed Rex, the Superbowl banners and merchandise would’ve already gone into production.

We’ll know in 12 months how this all plays out. I’m gonna try not to get too worked up one way or the other this season. Last year broke me.

Yay....a defense that lives by the mantra....bend, don't break......ooooooof, another explosive play.


How exciting. This really drops my momentum of excitement. I'd much rather of had Patricia.

Originally Posted by Davii

Oof. This doesn't please me. Here's hoping our D plays AT LEAST as well as they did with him as HC but hopefully better. If he's still here in 3 years it's either working or Payton doesn't like to fire people!

Yep. Same here.

So offensively on paper we will be better but then our defense will take a shit because Joseph is garbage. Hope im wrong.

One step forward 8 steps back. What a dumb shit hire this was.

Like always, and yes I'm an insufferable homer, I hope they prove everyone wrong.

Good commentary here:

Click on the bottom link and read ALL his comments.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Good commentary here:

Click on the bottom link and read ALL his comments.

I think the best quote in that tweet stream is the below:

"I hope the team plays well on offense and defense. I have no reason to think that incompetent coaching will prevent that from happening on either side of the ball, based on the hires that have been made."

I FULLY agree. While VJ proved to be a bad HC in his first stint he isn't an incompetent coordinator. Is he great? He hasn't shown that yet if he is, he's been average to above average when he has decent personnel. All that said, he's been competent, and while I think he's a step down from Evero he could very easily prove me/us wrong.

VJ's first year as HC we had the #23 ranked scoring D and the #13 D his second year so there was improvement year over year defensively and they were pretty stout against the run.

Originally Posted by Davii

I think the best quote in that tweet stream is the below:

"I hope the team plays well on offense and defense. I have no reason to think that incompetent coaching will prevent that from happening on either side of the ball, based on the hires that have been made."

I FULLY agree. While VJ proved to be a bad HC in his first stint he isn't an incompetent coordinator. Is he great? He hasn't shown that yet if he is, he's been average to above average when he has decent personnel. All that said, he's been competent, and while I think he's a step down from Evero he could very easily prove me/us wrong.

VJ's first year as HC we had the #23 ranked scoring D and the #13 D his second year so there was improvement year over year defensively and they were pretty stout against the run.

That basically happened in all his coordinator stops as well. The teams improved - until his final year in Houston, which is a dumpster fire or an organization.

After seeing them interview Patricia, my opinion completely changed. VJ is a saint by comparison, and VJ was even a much better NFL coach than that bum. If Patricia is part of VJ's staff, I hope he learns some humility because holy hell some of the stuff Darius Slay said about his locker room and some of the Mac Jones rumors last year were extremely troubling. VJ maybe didn't have the best first stint here, but his track record is respectable and he is respectable leading a defensive unit even if he may be a downgrade from Evero.

I think I blocked out everything from my brain of VJ's first HC tenure here.

Nice to meet you Vance. Let's Ride!

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