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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddiemac87 View Post
    Atlanta also publicly bowed out, and the titans have no money for him..the Pats just brought back Callahan to work with their QB,s in their system..

    That leaves Indy, and Irsey said…no fully guaranteed contracts.

    Teams could literally draft next month..and then make him an offer and their 2 1sts will be in 25. @26 and probably worse than the teams that are possible landing spots for him now.
    I if Atlanta and Tennessee are out, he may be hosed. I just don't see where else he fits.
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Lamar is f'ed only way he gets traded if is he signs his tender and gets off the guaranteed contract BS, even then its a doubtful stretch, he wont though so its a stalemate he either plays on a tag next year with bmore or he doesn't play unless he chnages his contract demands..... He has no leverage its done its a wrap. He fell of the last 2 years its that simple he played the wrong card.
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
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    The owners are pretty revolting human beings. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    The owners are pretty revolting human beings. Sad.
    How so? Genuinely curious why you think that and not intended to be be dismissive toward you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    The owners are pretty revolting human beings. Sad.
    If players aren’t revolting or terrible for demanding a fully guaranteed contract worth large amounts more than the last person then owners aren’t wrong for refusing to pay it.

    To use a phrase I just read in this thread, it’s either a business or it’s not, we don’t get to say that for players but not apply it to owners. They’re not vile because they have more than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    How so? Genuinely curious why you think that and not intended to be be dismissive toward you.
    Colluding to keep guaranteed contracts out of the biggest sport in this country is disgusting, it happens, it’s always happened . . . but it’s ****** up.

    We’re not talking about Al Davis, Bill Bidwell and Mike Brown anymore, these are people that are buying dick-shaped rockets to shoot them and their buddies into space.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Colluding to keep guaranteed contracts out of the biggest sport in this country is disgusting, it happens, it’s always happened . . . but it’s ****** up.

    We’re not talking about Al Davis, Bill Bidwell and Mike Brown anymore, these are people that are buying dick-shaped rockets to shoot them and their buddies into space.
    Hard disagree. People shouldn't be paid for work they haven't done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    Hard disagree. People shouldn't be paid for work they haven't done.
    This isn’t 1955, Boomer, your grandpa’s ideals don’t apply.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

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    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    The Walmart’s Made enough loot to buy the Broncos off of work they didn’t do.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    This isn’t 1955, Boomer, your grandpa’s ideals don’t apply.
    Nor do yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    The Walmart’s Made enough loot to buy the Broncos off of work they didn’t do.
    Bull. Rob helped build that company. Sorry your friend didn't have any other options than to work at Walmart. That sounds like a him problem, not the Waltons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    The problem for Lamar is that he's not a plug-n-play NFL QB. You need a specific system to utilize his talents.
    I don’t know if that’s true; he’s never had traditional weapons and given that chance. It might be true, but I think building around special talent is okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    If players aren’t revolting or terrible for demanding a fully guaranteed contract worth large amounts more than the last person then owners aren’t wrong for refusing to pay it.

    To use a phrase I just read in this thread, it’s either a business or it’s not, we don’t get to say that for players but not apply it to owners. They’re not vile because they have more than anyone else.
    Collusion isn’t a legitimate business tactic; it’s such a sweet scheme though because we all see it and yet we can’t prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    How so? Genuinely curious why you think that and not intended to be be dismissive toward you.
    I think it’s a moral failure to collude with fellow billionaires to not dole out guaranteed money after precedent has been set in the market. It’s inorganic and greedy. Hypocritical, too. The market sets out what these guys are worth. The Baltimore brass even admitted it; so now teams who need QBs are opting to not go after a guy who is at least on Watson’s level because they don’t want to shell out guaranteed money while pretending that Watson never inked that deal.

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