Thread: 2023 Free Agency

Originally Posted by King87

Agents for stats often make more than three, iirc.

We’ve seen plenty of players in sports do well as their own agents.

If my dumb, fat, and handsome ass can figure out how to overcome some health issues for LJ and build a modern offense, Baltimore should be able too.

Don’t let their reputation guide you on this; no serious person can argue he’s not a top ten guy. You don’t move on from those unless you have good reason. This ain’t it.

They beat Cincinnati if they paid him and he plays. This defense gave up games LJ carried them in.

He’s a solution, not a problem.

Football gods, punish them for their hubris.

If you just want to take hacks at Baltimore, I don't care about that. But if he's a top ten guy who deserves to re-set the market, why has no team shown even a whiff of interest? Watson was accused of reprehensible behavior, facing an uncertain future, and there was still a significant bidding war for his services. Why haven't teams been lining up to make a run at Lamar?

Originally Posted by dogfish

If you just want to take hacks at Baltimore, I don't care about that. But if he's a top ten guy who deserves to re-set the market, why has no team shown even a whiff of interest? Watson was accused of reprehensible behavior, facing an uncertain future, and there was still a significant bidding war for his services. Why haven't teams been lining up to make a run at Lamar?

Collusion. It’s a dirty, but open secret.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

The problem for Lamar is that he's not a plug-n-play NFL QB. You need a specific system to utilize his talents.

This isn’t true anymore, in my opinion. Matter of fact, I would have him run less.

Originally Posted by R8R H8R

This Kyle Fuller will be for depth at Center, but not a starter. Since 2017, has 51 games under his belt but only 12 starts. Russ knows him from Seattle. I believe our starter will be drafted, probably with one of our two 3rds.

Didn’t they just draft a C last year? Meinerz two years ago. Cushenberry three years ago. Sooner or later they need to start drafting something other than safety and center.

I keep hearing about how bad C is, Mile High Report and Predominately Orange are flat out obsessed with C position.

I don’t get it, Cushenberry and Glasgow are just as shitty as McGovern and Parastiff were, the Broncos haven’t had a top C since Nalen.

The problem is PFF, people think they’re a scouting service.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Didn’t they just draft a C last year? Meinerz two years ago. Cushenberry three years ago. Sooner or later they need to start drafting something other than safety and center.

Whataburger is useless, and Meinerz is playing guard. And Cush is average at best. Nothing wrong with bringing in some cheap depth / competition.

Also, they could use another safety with Kareem likely moving on. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

Whataburger is useless, and Meinerz is playing guard. And Cush is average at best. Nothing wrong with bringing in some cheap depth / competition.

Also, they could use another safety with Kareem likely moving on. . .

There’s bigger needs than C, the Broncos C’s have always been average best for decades. Why change now?

Move Meinerz to C and draft a guard. Or don’t do either and draft a ****** T for once.

Originally Posted by Jaded

This isn’t true anymore, in my opinion. Matter of fact, I would have him run less.

A Lamar that doesn't run as much(depending on the cut in rush attempts) is a middle of the road QB.

Originally Posted by dogfish

Baltimore is making the right choice. Dude isn't in the Mahomes-Allen-Burrow tier. He just doesn't throw the ball that well. He hasn't progressed as a passer-- still can't throw outside the numbers consistently, and he's only broken 3,000 passing yards once. Both his rushing and passing yards have declined since his MVP season, and his style doesn't translate to winning in the playoffs. Jalen Hurts is already three times the player Lamar is, and LJ's game is going to age like unrefrigerated sushi. He has absorbed FAR too may unnecessary hits, and he doesn't know how to protect his body. Hasn't finished the last two seasons, and he quit on his team before the playoffs last year. Then there's the fact that his mom is his agent. Too much drama for diminishing returns. There's a reason no one has even talked to him about an offer sheet.

^This

Ill go over it more when King and I talk on Thursday but i will definitely have a lot to say on this subject.

Originally Posted by R8R H8R

Originally Posted by chazoe60

A Lamar that doesn't run as much(depending on the cut in rush attempts) is a middle of the road QB.

I don’t agree, the notion that he’s not a passer is just old and dated.

Originally Posted by dogfish

Baltimore is making the right choice. Dude isn't in the Mahomes-Allen-Burrow tier. He just doesn't throw the ball that well. He hasn't progressed as a passer-- still can't throw outside the numbers consistently, and he's only broken 3,000 passing yards once. Both his rushing and passing yards have declined since his MVP season, and his style doesn't translate to winning in the playoffs. Jalen Hurts is already three times the player Lamar is, and LJ's game is going to age like unrefrigerated sushi. He has absorbed FAR too may unnecessary hits, and he doesn't know how to protect his body. Hasn't finished the last two seasons, and he quit on his team before the playoffs last year. Then there's the fact that his mom is his agent. Too much drama for diminishing returns. There's a reason no one has even talked to him about an offer sheet.

Yeah. It's a brutal world even for world-class athletes who do singular things.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Yeah. Let's not and say we did.

He's painfully slow at 35 years old, and it'll be fun seeing you blow up when we take another safety with our first pick.

I believe it was the owner of GM who said, reportedly, that the Watson deal complicated the negotiations.

Dogfish pointed out that Watson had suitors. He did. And then a team eliminated from Watson’s pool of teams came back with that contract; owners were reportedly pissed because their big contractual trick is guaranteed money and trying to mitigate it as much as possible.

This is a league where teams throw money at QBs hand over fist. But now this guy has no interest?

Use common sense; he was still dynamic last season; how many games did that defense blow? At one point the Ravens looked like SB contenders.

Even if he’s not all that great, he’s good enough for teams to overpay; teams will always talk themselves into a QB.