Thread: North's Den/Rav Game Observations

Originally Posted by Tbolt

North, I know you can look at the scoreboard and say you don’t blame the Defense, but surely you have to blame them a little. They gave up a 91 yard TD drive that required two 4th down conversions to a backup QB, and committed 30 yards in penalties along the way. Sometimes it’s about when you fail.

97 yards.

That’s even worse, but thank you for the correction. Three different times that drive I thought the defense had won it, only to be let down. For some stupid reason I was super into that game.

Originally Posted by Tbolt

North, I know you can look at the scoreboard and say you don’t blame the Defense, but surely you have to blame them a little. They gave up a 91 yard TD drive that required two 4th down conversions to a backup QB, and committed 30 yards in penalties along the way. Sometimes it’s about when you fail.

Nah when your offense cant score more than 10 pts thats all on the offense. This game should have been over LONG before we got to that final drive and its been the story all year as the defense has been keeping us in games giving the offense chance after chance to get their act together. The defense in 2015 would have come through and stopped them but this aint that defense and you are asking to bleed blood from a stone for them to keep the opposing offense from eventually scoring. Sucks but this loss like most of the year has been on the offense because they are a bunch of scrubby doos and cant play their way out of a shoe box.

All we had to do was to score one TD, ONE ******* TD and we would have won that game. The defense did everything it could including getting 2 turnovers. No ******* way im leaving that loss at their feet. No chance in hell.

North is correct here. It should never in a million years have ever come down to the defense needing to make a stop to win that game. The offense failed literally every single drive they stepped on the field in this game if you consider scoring a TD the main goal. The defense failed on exactly one drive. Was that a bad drive for them, yes. But if you're saying the defense is supposed to play a perfect game week after week and never allow a TD ever, that's just an absurdly unrealistic expectation. The defense did their job this week. The offense did not.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Bears LT should be starting for the Broncos at RT right now, Braxton Jones, been their starter since he signed his contract.

Broncos took Dalarrin Turner-Yell instead.

Their LT is ass. He is a backup at best. He makes Bolles look like Walter Jones.

Take it to the extreme: If the Denver gave up 10 PPG on average they would be by far and away the greatest defense in the history of the game. The Denver offense was the main culprit.

Originally Posted by King87

Take it to the extreme: If the Denver gave up 10 PPG on average they would be by far and away the greatest defense in the history of the game. The Denver offense was the main culprit.

It's literally impossible to do what this defense is asked to do. That being the only way the team can win is for them to never give up one single TD. It just can't be done.

The Broncos offense never got into the red zone. Closest they came was the B-30.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

The Broncos offense never got into the red zone. Closest they came was the B-30.

Even the Tebow offense wasn't close to this bad. Drew Lock's offense on his worst days wasn't this bad. I just can't believe what a complete failure this offense is.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Even the Tebow offense wasn't close to this bad. Drew Lock's offense on his worst days wasn't this bad. I just can't believe what a complete failure this offense is.

This might offend Jaded, but WTH - he's offended by everything!

I'm not willing to blame Kubiak, YET, for his play calling. He's stuck with the Hackett offensive (both meanings) playbook and can't implement his own ideas.

I do wish he'd take a deeper dive into the playbook, and mix things up more.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Even the Tebow offense wasn't close to this bad. Drew Lock's offense on his worst days wasn't this bad. I just can't believe what a complete failure this offense is.

This is what I don't understand. We had turnovers machines like Drew Lock, check it down Teddy, a career try hard backup like Keenum, pocket sloth Siemian yet we were scoring more frequently and had better offenses even with more turnovers that the crap we have on hand this year.

It's almost like Hackett is tanking but hasn't realized Seattle has our pick.

Originally Posted by Northman

Nah when your offense cant score more than 10 pts thats all on the offense.

100% on the offense.

Okay, 95%, and 5% on special teams. Defense gets 0% of the blame.

If the Ravens lost, it wouldn’t have been on their Defense either. But the fact remains, how and when our Defense folded. They are not the main culprit but they have failed to close out consistently all year, despite being by far our best unit.

Originally Posted by Tbolt

If the Ravens lost, it wouldn’t have been on their Defense either. But the fact remains, how and when our Defense folded. They are not the main culprit but they have failed to close out consistently all year, despite being by far our best unit.

But the question you have to ask yourself is this, if the offense scored an average of 25 pts a game do you think the defense still would have failed? Personally i dont think so.