Thread: Is Russ a fraud?

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

Broncos should sign Drew Lock, Paxton Lynch and Joe Flacco.

Cop out. Do better.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Russ has created more drama for the Broncos than success. I just want him gone.

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

He didn’t create that drama.

I've got to side mostly with Jaded on this specific point as far as him not cause the vast majority of the drama that he's been in the middle of. Him choosing to throw SP under the bus for things that happened behind closed doors was all him. Nevertheless, I don’t recall him doing that much to hype himself to the public, I’m pretty sure that was done almost entirely by his supporters. On the flip side, the lengths his doubters have gone to bash him has been absolutely ridiculous at times, especially that entire flight to London “scandal” in which he was accused by some of showing up his teammates to doing stretching exercises while many of them slept. Of course, another Broncos' QB that was the center of far more drama than he actually created himself was Tebow. Although they both raised everyone's blood pressure with the way they played, the big difference between the 2 was TT gave fans a lot of legitimate reasons to be excited.

So, all things considered, I’m done with the RW experiment to the point that I’m willing to take the cap hit and all of the consequences will face over the next year or 2 so we can move on.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

I've got to side mostly with Jaded on this specific point as far as him not cause the vast majority of the drama that he's been in the middle of. Him choosing to throw SP under the bus for things that happened behind closed doors was all him. Nevertheless, I don’t recall him doing that much to hype himself to the public, I’m pretty sure that was done almost entirely by his supporters. On the flip side, the lengths his doubters have gone to bash him has been absolutely ridiculous at times, especially that entire flight to London “scandal” in which he was accused by some of showing up his teammates to doing stretching exercises while many of them slept. Of course, another Broncos' QB that was the center of far more drama than he actually created himself was Tebow. Although they both raised everyone's blood pressure with the way they played, the big difference between the 2 was TT gave fans a lot of legitimate reasons to be excited.

So, all things considered, I’m done with the RW experiment to the point that I’m willing to take the cap hit and all of the consequences will face over the next year or 2 so we can move on.

I’m not a Sean Payton homer, either. Russell Wilson has been with the Broncos for what 3 yrs? Are we supposed to hold his hand to become a successful QB? Prove that I am wrong in saying Russell Wilson has created drama as a Bronco.

Originally Posted by Nomad

I’m not a Sean Payton homer, either. Russell Wilson has been with the Broncos for what 3 yrs? Are we supposed to hold his hand to become a successful QB? Prove that I am wrong in saying Russell Wilson has created drama as a Bronco.

So, I take it that you’re more like me in that you want to assess RW based solely on his play rather than all of the social media garbage, most of which he’s done nothing to start. I wish all fans thought more like us, but it’s clear that a lot of fans are letting all of the off the field noise impact their assessment of him. As far as his game play, it’s more than when just what he’s done with us over the past 2 seasons, its that he’s now got 12 years of experience. This means that at this stage of his career, he is who he is, which is a QB that has lost much of the athleticism that he depended upon early in his career. He hasn’t deteriorated as far as Michal Vick had during his final season as a pro with the Steelers, but RW’s much closer to him at this point in his career then to Lamar Jackson.

I was really excited when RW became a Bronco. The let down is real. I never wish a player for the Denver Broncos to fail. Never. I will criticize those coaches & players who do fail.

Originally Posted by Nomad

I was really excited when RW became a Bronco. The let down is real. I never wish a player for the Denver Broncos to fail. Never. I will criticize those coaches & players who do fail.

I was as uncertain about his signing as I was Manning's because they were both coming off injuries. Obviously I was far happier with Manning the RW

Originally Posted by Nomad

Cop out. Do better.

That literally is better.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Are you drunk? I’m watching the same shitshow going on in Denver. It starts with Russell Wilson.

Of course I’m drunk!

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

Of course I’m drunk!

Quite drinking your Zima.

I like Zima. Bartles and James. Purple Passion.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Quite drinking your Zima.

They call it white claw now.

I like White Claw. Bud Light Seltzer. Shrimp kebab. Shrimp creole. Shrimp scampi.

Booze is booze, stop being a tawt about it.

Originally Posted by Simple Jaded

He didn’t create that drama.

Depends on the drama. The drama surrounding his office, special staff/special treatment, his stupid commercials and antics in pressers, wearing the stupid playcall-band after Pete called him out on it, playing horribly, and having a fake persona? Yeah, that's literally all on him.

Oh, and all the backlash from the stuff he did in Seattle...also on him...

Sounds bad, when you put it like that.

Rus isn't a fraud he's just run out of that thing he had that made him great when he was great. Rus is the kind of QB that is boom or bust. His play style is not a fit for SP. We kinda knew this going in didn't we? I hope Rus goes to Atlanta and ends his career successfully. I sincerely hope he resurrects his career and goes out on a high note. As corny and cheesy as he can be. As phony as he can seem at times, I genuinely think he's a good dude. He and his wife proo up things I like such as family and wholesomeness. The world is a better place with a successful Russell Wilson and I want the world to be a better place. I don't think that is possible here and selfishly I don't enjoy watching the style.

I pine for a Payton Manning, Drew Brees surgeon type QB who will just slice and dice a defense with his brain as much as his arm. Throw in some modern day athletic freakiness, doesn't have to be Lamar's running or Mahomes' creativity just something at least in the ballpark of "special" would be awesome. Drake Maye is the dream, JJ McCarthy may end up being the realistic option with some possibilities.