Thread: Dwayne Haskins died this morning

First of all, tweets by journalists are meant to get the news out followed by snap reaction. His was that Haskins didn't live up to expectations as a pro. It wasn't inaccurate, just a bit insensitive.

I remember a player from Notre Dame who played d-line for the Oilers in the '90s. His best friend came down to see him in December and they went out drinking. About 2 am, they're driving back to his home when the car struck a barrier on a freeway overpass. The crash threw the friend out of the car and he died in the crossing highway beneath. The player was so filled with guilt and grief that he went to his trunk, pulled out a shotgun and killed himself.

So, how do you leave all that out of even the first tweet you send out?

Just say only what a great guy he was?

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

First of all, tweets by journalists are meant to get the news out followed by snap reaction. His was that Haskins didn't live up to expectations as a pro. It wasn't inaccurate, just a bit insensitive.

I remember a player from Notre Dame who played d-line for the Oilers in the '90s. His best friend came down to see him in December and they went out drinking. About 2 am, they're driving back to his home when the car struck a barrier on a freeway overpass. The crash threw the friend out of the car and he died in the crossing highway beneath. The player was so filled with guilt and grief that he went to his trunk, pulled out a shotgun and killed himself.

So, how do you leave all that out of even the first tweet you send out?

Just say only what a great guy he was?

He's a still a journalist held to the standards of the industry.

The story was Haskin's death. The story in your example is wildly different.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

First of all, tweets by journalists are meant to get the news out followed by snap reaction. His was that Haskins didn't live up to expectations as a pro. It wasn't inaccurate, just a bit insensitive.

I remember a player from Notre Dame who played d-line for the Oilers in the '90s. His best friend came down to see him in December and they went out drinking. About 2 am, they're driving back to his home when the car struck a barrier on a freeway overpass. The crash threw the friend out of the car and he died in the crossing highway beneath. The player was so filled with guilt and grief that he went to his trunk, pulled out a shotgun and killed himself.

So, how do you leave all that out of even the first tweet you send out?

Just say only what a great guy he was?

You are correct, sir. It wasn't inaccurate, but it was insensitive.

I don't think Adam was WRONG as much as he could've done better. We should all be open to constructive criticism and be open to learning how what we do/say can impact others and be open to recognizing that, growing when appropriate, or ignoring when appropriate.

To your situation, no, you wouldn't ignore a single part of the story of what happened that evening resulting in his death. You should, however, avoid that he had five kids he hadn't seen in over 2 years and had never paid child support for. (I made that up and am not insinuating it's true, just making a point). Were that true you haven't done something wrong reporting the truth, but it wasn't related to the reason for the tweet, was insensitive, and could've been handled better.

Room to, and opportunities for, growth.

Originally Posted by Davii

You are correct, sir. It wasn't inaccurate, but it was insensitive.

I don't think Adam was WRONG as much as he could've done better. We should all be open to constructive criticism and be open to learning how what we do/say can impact others and be open to recognizing that, growing when appropriate, or ignoring when appropriate.

To your situation, no, you wouldn't ignore a single part of the story of what happened that evening resulting in his death. You should, however, avoid that he had five kids he hadn't seen in over 2 years and had never paid child support for. (I made that up and am not insinuating it's true, just making a point). Were that true you haven't done something wrong reporting the truth, but it wasn't related to the reason for the tweet, was insensitive, and could've been handled better.

Room to, and opportunities for, growth.

One of the reason why people are so harsh on Schefter for this is because he has had several other ****ups. I will let you google them if you're interested, for...reasons.

Do we know what happened yet?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Do we know what happened yet?

Si.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Do we know what happened yet?

Not yet, police said they won’t release further details until their investigation is complete.

Originally Posted by Davii

Not yet, police said they won’t release further details until their investigation is complete.

Nope, we know it all. Nothing could be gleaned.

Originally Posted by King87

Nope, we know it all. Nothing could be gleaned.

Really? So no word on why he was there? I still can’t find anything.

Originally Posted by Davii

Really? So no word on why he was there? I still can’t find anything.

I'm just being a turdling, Davii. Sorry

I was looking at some articles to see more information on how he died, and three articles I read have had something like this:

Washington selected Haskins as the 15th overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, but he didn't live up to his lofty status. He played 16 games across two seasons for Washington, compiling a 3-10 record in 13 starts.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/11/us/dw...now/index.html

Are all these reporters and news outlets also breaking the rules or is it ok now because x number of days have passed since his death?

As I've seen this type of reporting following celebrity or athletes deaths many times, I'm trying to understand why what Schefter did was wrong, but what CNN and others did is ok.

Originally Posted by Tned

I was looking at some articles to see more information on how he died, and three articles I read have had something like this:



https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/11/us/dw...now/index.html

Are all these reporters and news outlets also breaking the rules or is it ok now because x number of days have passed since his death?

As I've seen this type of reporting following celebrity or athletes deaths many times, I'm trying to understand why what Schefter did was wrong, but what CNN and others did is ok.

I don’t think any of them are WRONG, but there’s a better way to go about it immediately following the death.

Shades of grey, nuance, and all that jazz

Originally Posted by Davii

I don’t think any of them are WRONG, but there’s a better way to go about it immediately following the death.

Shades of grey, nuance, and all that jazz

Just trying to understand if the knock on Schefter is timing or what, because from what I'm seeing, many, if not most, articles are recounting his struggles.

Originally Posted by Tned

Just trying to understand if the knock on Schefter is timing or what, because from what I'm seeing, many, if not most, articles are recounting his struggles.

For me it’s mainly about timing. The immediate aftermath of whatever happened isn’t the time for that, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Davii

Because it wasn’t a story summarizing his career. It was a tweet announcing his death.

Good lord man, please don’t write about me if something unfortunate should happen. I would hate to have highlighted, in the announcement of my death, that I didn’t live up to my full potential.

Everything I know about you is from this message board. As a result, I can only determine whether you lived up to your full potential based on what your wrote in your posts. Based on your posts that I have read, I would have to write that you more than lived up to your potential when compared to the likes of King, WTE, etc.

*Note - King, I'm just joking and busting your chops*