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    Default Who is the best WR all time? In their prime.

    I ended up watching some Randy Moss college ball. Raw, but unstoppable.

    Then I think of Megatron.

    But it's not all about the goods. Also gotta produce. Looking at you, Steve Largent.

    That dude was always open, even when he wasn't. Like those white boy Patriot receivers.

    Not that any of them are goat-ly, just using as example of consistent production, an important factor.

    What about Andre Johnson? Or Julio? Maybe B-Marsh? At his peak, B-Marsh could. not. be. contained.

    TO? Fitz? Marvin Harrison? AB before the lobotomy?

    There's also this one other dude, but his name eludes me...

    So...here's the question.

    Which WR who played in the NFL was the most unstoppable when at their peak--gave opposing CBs and DCs nightmares because what he did was unstoppable?
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    Rice?
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    Rice?
    That's his name. Thanks.
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    ABs prime run merits consideration: he did big play and Wes weaker shit. It was filthy.

    I’d say Moss and Tron felt like video game characters.

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    Rice

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    Megatron. The single greatest physical freak in NFL history. They did an episode of Sports Science about him and it was mind blowing. His catch radius was the size of a two car garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    Megatron. The single greatest physical freak in NFL history. They did an episode of Sports Science about him and it was mind blowing. His catch radius was the size of a two car garage.
    This is the kind of shit I mean--no matter how savvy and nuanced and perfect the immensely physically talented raw-in-college Jerry Rice became--and I watched nearly every Rice-in-his-prime game live--Rice was not Megatron.

    I'm leaning Megatron as most 'unstoppable' at his absolute peak.

    There's also the team/coach/QB factor that needs to be teased out. Good luck with that. I guess that means don't just look at stats. Rice isn't Rice with Drew Lock throwing him the ball. I think Andre Johnson got the shaft in this discussion for that reason. Maybe Moss, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    This is the kind of shit I mean--no matter how savvy and nuanced and perfect the immensely physically talented raw-in-college Jerry Rice became--and I watched nearly every Rice-in-his-prime game live--Rice was not Megatron.

    I'm leaning Megatron as most 'unstoppable' at his absolute peak.

    There's also the team/coach/QB factor that needs to be teased out. Good luck with that. I guess that means don't just look at stats. Rice isn't Rice with Drew Lock throwing him the ball. I think Andre Johnson got the shaft in this discussion for that reason. Maybe Moss, too.
    I always try to turn these discussions into a fantasy draft exercise. Like if the NFLs best GM, a guy with a good balance of results vs potential thinking, was doing a fantasy draft in which he gets the players as rookies and knows what they did in their first career. Kinda like a weird version of Field of Dreams.

    What WR would go first in that draft? There's only one correct answer and it's Megatron. Dude was 6'5" 240lbs and Rand a 4.36 40. Then came in to the league and had insane production in Detroit, 11000+ yards in 9 seasons. Yes, he had a pretty good QB for most of his career, but not much else. He was one of the rare combine freaks whose production matched his measurable a.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    This is the kind of shit I mean--no matter how savvy and nuanced and perfect the immensely physically talented raw-in-college Jerry Rice became--and I watched nearly every Rice-in-his-prime game live--Rice was not Megatron.

    I'm leaning Megatron as most 'unstoppable' at his absolute peak.

    There's also the team/coach/QB factor that needs to be teased out. Good luck with that. I guess that means don't just look at stats. Rice isn't Rice with Drew Lock throwing him the ball. I think Andre Johnson got the shaft in this discussion for that reason. Maybe Moss, too.
    Moss was the best deep ball/50-50 go up and get it WR I ever saw.
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    Megatron.

    **** Rice.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    This is the kind of shit I mean--no matter how savvy and nuanced and perfect the immensely physically talented raw-in-college Jerry Rice became--and I watched nearly every Rice-in-his-prime game live--Rice was not Megatron.

    I'm leaning Megatron as most 'unstoppable' at his absolute peak.

    There's also the team/coach/QB factor that needs to be teased out. Good luck with that. I guess that means don't just look at stats. Rice isn't Rice with Drew Lock throwing him the ball. I think Andre Johnson got the shaft in this discussion for that reason. Maybe Moss, too.
    Moss had Tom Brady
    Megatron had Matt Stafford
    Rice had Montana and Young but ALSO had Rich Gannon who is not a HOF QB.

    When i think of Rice i dont look at just his stats, i look at his ability to change the game and make the clutch plays needed to win them.

    Moss and Megatron certainly were talented receivers and will be HOF'rs but Rice to me was on a whole other level and the fact that he wasnt necessarily as gifted athletically as the other two makes what he did even more impressive to me.

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    I think at some point Cooper Kupp should enter this discussion as well.

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    Talent - Moss

    Overall package - Rice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Moss had Tom Brady
    Megatron had Matt Stafford
    Rice had Montana and Young but ALSO had Rich Gannon who is not a HOF QB.

    When i think of Rice i dont look at just his stats, i look at his ability to change the game and make the clutch plays needed to win them.

    Moss and Megatron certainly were talented receivers and will be HOF'rs but Rice to me was on a whole other level and the fact that he wasnt necessarily as gifted athletically as the other two makes what he did even more impressive to me.
    They already are.

    Rice was the definition of playing faster and better in a game than in a combine workout. Always funny that he was the the 3rd receiver drafted in 85...and didn't win OROY

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