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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzafiato View Post
    That was more about his arm falling off.
    You don't remember the vaunted bootlegs, or switching systems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Who was the last franchise QB that one of them has developed? They don’t do well with QBs, They do well with scrubs. Kubiak turned PFM into a scrub.
    Kubes benched a QB with 9tds, 17ints, and then had the massive balls to turn it back over to said QB. #coaching
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy! View Post
    Kubes benched a QB with 9tds, 17ints, and then had the massive balls to turn it back over to said QB. #coaching
    Kubes forced an All-Time GOAT of all GOAT’s into his shitty system instead of running the system that All-Time GOAT of all GOAT’s could still run in his sleep, I’m just gonna go ahead and assume that utterly predictable POS scheme was the reason for all the Int’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzafiato View Post
    That was more about his arm falling off.
    Think so?

    I get that’s a popular narrative but PFM never played that bad til Kubiak forced him into his paint-by-numbers scheme.
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    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    You don't remember the vaunted bootlegs, or switching systems?
    I remember Kubiak taking a time out because the absolute master of audibles had the audacity to try to change Kubiak’s play at the line of scrimmage.

    Credit where its due, Kubiak coached his ass off, but that Super Bowl win had absolutely nothing to do with his ****** up scheme, imo they are a far better offense if they just stick to what PFM knew for his entire career. Kubiak was too arrogant for that and PFM deserves credit for swallowing his pride (something Kubiak has literally never done).
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
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    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    The point stands; The coaching tree has never developed shit, they inevitably go with scrubs that can already paint-by-numbers.

    We’ll see what Jr does with Lance, my guess is Lance gets about 18 games and then Jr puts in Bobby Beathard’s Scrubby Doo nieces nephew.
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    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Think so?

    I get that’s a popular narrative but PFM never played that bad til Kubiak forced him into his paint-by-numbers scheme.
    Duuuude, that final year Pey Pey was in dire straits with his health. I know Kubiak's system was pretty conservative but most of Manning's issue was his health which is why he needed to take off some games. Thats not theory that is just fact brother which is why he ended up retiring the following year. His body was simply not able to do it anymore.

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    As a OC Kubiak was pretty damn good, HC not so much. If not for Wade in 2015 that SB doesnt happen especially with Manning's health and play for most of that year. I think Manning really only had one great game and that was against the Packers earlier in the year. But as an OC Kubiak was pretty good which is why the Ravens were so pissed about losing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Duuuude, that final year Pey Pey was in dire straits with his health. I know Kubiak's system was pretty conservative but most of Manning's issue was his health which is why he needed to take off some games. Thats not theory that is just fact brother which is why he ended up retiring the following year. His body was simply not able to do it anymore.
    he was done after the quad injury halfway through 2014-- can't blame kubes for the way PFM played down the stretch that year, when you could easily see that he just didn't have it physically anymore. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
    - John Elway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Duuuude, that final year Pey Pey was in dire straits with his health. I know Kubiak's system was pretty conservative but most of Manning's issue was his health which is why he needed to take off some games. Thats not theory that is just fact brother which is why he ended up retiring the following year. His body was simply not able to do it anymore.
    I never said PFM wasn’t a ghost of himself … I said Kubiak forced him to run his godawful system, which was clearly a poor decision. The fact that PFM wasn’t full strength makes that decision even more stupid, imo.

    PFM could run his system in his sleep, he’s infinitely smarter than Kubiak … it had to be the worst experience of his career.

    Thank Wade Phillips for making it all worthwhile (Kubiak almost ****** that up too).
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    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
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    6th round— Cash Jones RB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I never said PFM wasn’t a ghost of himself … I said Kubiak forced him to run his godawful system, which was clearly a poor decision. The fact that PFM wasn’t full strength makes that decision even more stupid, imo.

    PFM could run his system in his sleep, he’s infinitely smarter than Kubiak … it had to be the worst experience of his career.

    Thank Wade Phillips for making it all worthwhile (Kubiak almost ****** that up too).
    Why you being a Debbie downer on a day like today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    Why you being a Debbie downer on a day like today?
    Why do birds fly? Why do fish swim? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Why do birds fly? Why do fish swim? Why?
    He's a miserable person. You might say "jaded".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    He's a miserable person. You might say "jaded".
    He's a nice man.

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    Was it something I said?
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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