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    So i was looking and reading up more on QBR vs regular NFL ratings for Quarterbacks and in theory the QBR is the most complete example of how well a Quarterback does at any given time throughout a season or career. Granted, this only started around 2006 from what i can tell so going back to guys like Montana or Elway doesnt have a QBR for them. But i went and looked at some QB's across the league to see how they all measured up whether in a short period of time or a few years to see what separates them and i did find some interesting stats especially when it applies to some of the better QB's in the NFL vs average vs poor performance.

    I know Kinger and i were discussing how we felt about guys like Jalen Hurts and i find the QBR method very interesting in terms of QB performance and how fans generally feel about these QB's in question. Only one guy in this list is "interesting" to me and thats Burrow but it will be interesting in how his career plays out overall in terms of QBR and his success. As for the other QB's none of these numbers really shock me and they are bracketed about where i myself view them in terms of franchise quality. Matt Ryan is also a bit of an enigma because only in the last 3 years has he been under 60% so one might conclude the issue is the team around him instead of him himself.


    From what i can see most if not all QB's who are considered the best in the NFL have a 60% or better QBR most years. This would include,


    Aaron Rodgers
    Tom Brady
    Drew Brees
    Peyton Manning
    Patrick Mahomes
    Justin Herbert
    Dak Prescott
    Russell Wilson
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Deshaun Watson
    Matt Ryan



    Qbs who have hit the 60% mark a couple of years but have spent more or the same amount of time under 60%,


    Derek Carr
    Kirk Cousins
    Kyler Murray
    Lamar Jackson
    Josh Allen
    Baker Mayfield
    Ryan Tannehill
    Carson Wentz
    Matthew Stafford
    Jared Goff
    Jameis Winston
    Cam Newton



    QB's who have never hit the 60% mark, (*Rookie)


    Teddy Bridgewater
    Drew Lock
    Joe Burrow
    Mac Jones *
    Tua Tagovailoa
    Zach Wilson *
    Trevor Lawrence *
    Jalen Hurts
    Taylor Heinicke
    Daniel Jones
    Trey Lance *
    Justin Fields *
    Sam Darnold

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    Yea, that was one game though, im talking in totality of a season and seasons overall. For instance, for his first 3 years in the league he has a QBR of 50.2, 41.2, and 23.7 for this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Yea, that was one game though, im talking in totality of a season and seasons overall. For instance, for his first 3 years in the league he has a QBR of 50.2, 41.2, and 23.7 for this year.
    Gotcha. I thought you were referring to games.

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    In this year's draft im not surprised at all that Pickett tops the list, however i am a bit surprised that Zappe has a high QBR so maybe he is the fly in the ointment and could be a sleeper. Not surprised by Strong and Eleby which scares me because i know Denver is interested in Kaleb which would mean yet again another damn project QB if they take him. For all the good things Strong can do he has more negatives in my opinion and his QBR certainly reinforces my thoughts on him.

    As expected, next years draft class has a lot of high ceiling guys, Stroud and Young are extremely high but you have to wonder if it has some to do with the schools they play for. Bennett and McCall are intriguing whereas im laughing out loud at the fact my boy Armstrong has a higher QBR than Rattler who i feel is vastly overrated. With him getting benched last year in favor of the backup pretty much supports my theory there as well. I only threw DJ in there because despite the setback by Clemson i really dont think DJ is in the same vein as Lawrence or Watson so im not shocked by his QBR either. And of course, Jaded seems to be dead on with Jham's fav QB with Haener who scores very low on the QBR list.



    Highest QBR for College QB's (This Draft) in 2021.

    Kenny Pickett- 81.2
    Matt Corrall- 80.5
    Bailey Zappe- 78.6
    Sam Howell- 76.1
    Desmond Ridder- 71.9
    Malik Willis- 70.0
    Brock Purdy- 70.0
    Carson Strong- 64.5
    Kaleb Eleby- 61.4



    (Next Years Draft)

    CJ Stroud- 91.6
    Bryce Young- 87.6
    Stetson Bennett- 86.7
    Grayson McCall- 81.5
    Jaren Hall- 78.0
    Hendon Hooker- 77.9
    Will Levis- 76.8
    Brennan Armstrong- 75.4 (Chose because UVA guy)
    Spencer Rattler- 71.6
    Jake Haener- 66.5
    D.J. Ulagalelei- 43.2

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    If im being honest concerning both lists the QB's that have a QBR with 80 or better i would consider to be starters/franchise type of guys. For those under they all would seem to be backups or out of the league type QB's. IMO

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    DJ Uiagalelei really shit the bed, I bet he loses his starting job and enters the transfer portal. I’m not counting on him being in the ‘23 class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    If im being honest concerning both lists the QB's that have a QBR with 80 or better i would consider to be starters/franchise type of guys. For those under they all would seem to be backups or out of the league type QB's. IMO
    This is why I shit on QBR, the notion that Stetson Bennett is a better prospect than Hendon Hooker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    This is why I shit on QBR, the notion that Stetson Bennett is a better prospect than Hendon Hooker.
    Stetson Bennett and Hendon Hooker sounds like the cast of a western themed porno.
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    Hendon Hooker has a better attitude than Dustin Hoffman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    This is why I shit on QBR, the notion that Stetson Bennett is a better prospect than Hendon Hooker.
    You know i love me some QBR because it generally aligns with not only how i see QB's as a total package but how it measures up when i look at how good/bad a QB does in the NFL and College respectively.

    But as i did point out is Bennetts QBR higher because he plays at Georgia and Hooker plays for a Tenn team still trying to dig out from Manning's shadow? And if so how does that apply to Stroud and Young? Are they simply products of the systems there? I agree with you that QBR will never be the be all end all but i think you spend far too much time pushing against it when i personally think it hits the mark more times than it misses. I mean, i know Bama had a down year (respectively) but what Bennett did against Bama isnt a whole lot to scoff at. Its very hard to beat the machine that is the Tide.
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