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There is no need to fire paton. That is not going to happen. Not even sure why people are saying something like this. I have seen it a lot. Its really really stupid.

Originally Posted by underrated29

There is no need to fire paton. That is not going to happen. Not even sure why people are saying something like this. I have seen it a lot. Its really really stupid.

It’s the dumbest shit I’ve heard amongst some broncos fans and broncos fans say plenty dumb shit ( myself included every once in awhile) but This whole fire Paton and anti Paton rhetoric has been going on since Paton passed on jones and fields as if they are the end all be all prospects you couldn’t pass! One guy landed in the perfect system and situation and is playing solid leaning heavy on the run throwing usually one touchdown during a game, the other guy has been benched already.

If all three players-Jones, Fields, and Surtain become pro-bowlers, the QB's are infinitely more valuable to their franchises and carry a much larger factor of their teams success.

It is about how you build a team. That is the criticism.

But we got Teddy, so we good.

Originally Posted by Tbolt

If all three players-Jones, Fields, and Surtain become pro-bowlers, the QB's are infinitely more valuable to their franchises and carry a much larger factor of their teams success.

It is about how you build a team. That is the criticism.

But we got Teddy, so we good.

Your correct we keep f'in up the build a team properly in favor of a constant win now mode mirage with QB's that cant actually win now. They were all shitty back up quality at best. Elway loved that shit, and Paton seemed to think he could do it with Teddy. Its been shit for years its still shit and I want a damn QB every draft until we f 'in find a good one. Its the most expensive and hardest position to fill you draft and develop until you find the one period. Denver hasn't learned this, and we keep hiring coaches that don't realize this either. Kubiak and Elway got lucky with Peyton period that's all it was luck. The shit has got to stop. We need to draft a rd 1 Qb and develop him period!

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler1

It’s the dumbest shit I’ve heard amongst some broncos fans and broncos fans say plenty dumb shit ( myself included every once in awhile) but This whole fire Paton and anti Paton rhetoric has been going on since Paton passed on jones and fields as if they are the end all be all prospects you couldn’t pass! One guy landed in the perfect system and situation and is playing solid leaning heavy on the run throwing usually one touchdown during a game, the other guy has been benched already.

Its not that they passed on fields and jones its that he passed on them then bought off on starting teddy. He is accountable for that just like Vic. Until Paton shows better decision making at the QB position he will be suspect and the calls for his firing will be there. Not to hard to see why.

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Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Your correct we keep f'in up the build a team properly in favor of a constant win now mode mirage with QB's that cant actually win now. They were all shitty back up quality at best. Elway loved that shit, and Paton seemed to think he could do it with Teddy. Its been shit for years its still shit and I want a damn QB every draft until we f 'in find a good one. Its the most expensive and hardest position to fill you draft and develop until you find the one period. Denver hasn't learned this, and we keep hiring coaches that don't realize this either. Kubiak and Elway got lucky with Peyton period that's all it was luck. The shit has got to stop. We need to draft a rd 1 Qb and develop him period!

This, exactly this. Elway even knew this early on, that's why they drafted Brock in the 2nd even though they had just signed Manning. Granted that should have been Russell Wilson, but using capital on the position was a smart GM move. Taking Paxton, even though he was a bum, was also a smart GM move. Being scared to invest in the position ever since is why he is no longer the GM.

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Originally Posted by underrated29

There is no need to fire paton. That is not going to happen. Not even sure why people are saying something like this. I have seen it a lot. Its really really stupid.

If he keeps trying to “fix” the QB position with clowns like Teddy, Paton will be as big a bum as Elway. It feels like we’re doomed

Paton throwing either Jones or Fields into this shitshow would have been a horrible waste. Picking PS2 was a way better choice given that he is a great fit for the better-than-average Denver D.

It’s not like Paton was in a position to just wholesale revamp the coaching situation last year. He was stuck with that at least for this first year and trying to force a high round QB into the mix would have been an absolute disaster. Instead Paton settled for a mild dumpster fire.

Originally Posted by LawDog

Paton throwing either Jones or Fields into this shitshow would have been a horrible waste. Picking PS2 was a way better choice given that he is a great fit for the better-than-average Denver D.

It’s not like Paton was in a position to just wholesale revamp the coaching situation last year. He was stuck with that at least for this first year and trying to force a high round QB into the mix would have been an absolute disaster. Instead Paton settled for a mild dumpster fire.

You don’t want Vic and fangio hands on anything promising at quarterback.

Originally Posted by LawDog

Paton throwing either Jones or Fields into this shitshow would have been a horrible waste. Picking PS2 was a way better choice given that he is a great fit for the better-than-average Denver D.

It’s not like Paton was in a position to just wholesale revamp the coaching situation last year. He was stuck with that at least for this first year and trying to force a high round QB into the mix would have been an absolute disaster. Instead Paton settled for a mild dumpster fire.

The pick would not have been for this coaching staff or this year. That is shortsighted thinking. There were two reasonable options for a team without a QB. Instead the answer was to waste that capital on a luxury pick and roll with TBW. QB's are hard to find. They are even harder to find when you don't try and find them.

Let me try and clarify a little further because these decisions do not happen in a vacuum. Pat Surtain is a good player. Hopefully he will have a long and productive career as a Denver Bronco. This is not about Pat Surtain. The pick is entirely defensible IF you are still committed to Drew Lock as your starting QB. Now I didn't expect Lock to work, BUT if you are not going to take a QB because you want to run it back with him to see how much better he can be, then fine, that is a reasonable argument and approach.

However, the coaching staff had no intention of starting Drew Lock. This had to be known on draft day as they had already acquired their QB for the season. That move was made with the intent to replace Drew Lock, not improve the QB room.

That is the problem with the approach. Wasting the opportunity to address the most important position on the team because they had TBW and were fine with it. That is such a Vikings approach they might as well change their colors to purple. Skol.

Daniel Jones threw 24 TDs in just 12 games as a rookie under Shurmur. I can just as easily speculate that a rookie QB would’ve been fine here.

But, you guys keep high-fiving each other over the “beastly” job Paton did, bringing in Teddy B to solve all the QB woes…

Originally Posted by Tbolt

Let me try and clarify a little further because these decisions do not happen in a vacuum. Pat Surtain is a good player. Hopefully he will have a long and productive career as a Denver Bronco. This is not about Pat Surtain. The pick is entirely defensible IF you are still committed to Drew Lock as your starting QB. Now I didn't expect Lock to work, BUT if you are not going to take a QB because you want to run it back with him to see how much better he can be, then fine, that is a reasonable argument and approach.

However, the coaching staff had no intention of starting Drew Lock. This had to be known on draft day as they had already acquired their QB for the season. That move was made with the intent to replace Drew Lock, not improve the QB room.

That is the problem with the approach. Wasting the opportunity to address the most important position on the team because they had TBW and were fine with it. That is such a Vikings approach they might as well change their colors to purple. Skol.

Going with TB as PLAN A.. is as stupid as it gets.

Patton is worse than Elway.