Thread: Let's talk 2022 NFL Draft and Quarterbacks

I'm drafting a QB in rd 1 this year if he isn't ready or doesn't look the part I'm doing it again next year. Drafting guys like Surtain is worthless if you don't have a QB this year is proof.

1. QB
2. LT
3. Pass rusher
4. CB

That's how you build. If the team is dumb which we have been and relies on below Avg. NFL starters its really our own stupid fault as a franchise which is why we are here yet again.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Not surprising you don't trade elite QB's. Hopefully they Fire Carroll and Hire Quinn so we don't try and bring Quinn in lol

Wilson won’t win another SB with Seattle. His time there has peaked. All the fans around here know that. NFC west is going to be tough the next few years. He needs to find a team like Brady did.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

I'm drafting a QB in rd 1 this year if he isn't ready or doesn't look the part I'm doing it again next year. Drafting guys like Surtain is worthless if you don't have a QB this year is proof.

1. QB
2. LT
3. Pass rusher
4. CB

That's how you build. If the team is dumb which we have been and relies on below Avg. NFL starters its really our own stupid fault as a franchise which is why we are here yet again.

Lmao that’s not how you win. That’s how you become the NY Jets and the the pre baker browns. You would not make a good NFL gm.

Drafting QBs just to draft a QB. Surtain is going to be a pro bowler for a long time. To say picking him and guys like him is worthless is retarded. While fields and Jones haven’t done anything to look like they can be future star QBs.

Originally Posted by Fangios Meatballs

Lmao that’s not how you win. That’s how you become the NY Jets and the the pre baker browns. You would not make a good NFL gm.

Drafting QBs just to draft a QB. Surtain is going to be a pro bowler for a long time. To say picking him is worthless is retarded. While fields and Jones haven’t done anything to look like they can be future star QBs.

Yes and no.

Fields and Jones are also rookies in their first year. Thats not me saying they will be great 2 years from now but its a little early for you to be writing them off because for all we know Surtain could end up going into a sophomore slump or worse. I dont mind the Surtain pick, i liked it personally over taking Fields. And even though the Browns continue to struggle its not all on Baker. Denver unfortunately is still looking for that franchise QB since Elway & Manning. Manning was nice to have but he really was nothing more than a merc for us that turned out great. Denver still needs to prove it can find another franchise QB otherwise it doesnt matter if we have 20 Pat Surtains on this team. At some point you have to try to get that guy, the only issue is you have to make sure the FO does their homework and doesnt reach. Some people think Pickett and Corral are scrubs but personally those two guys are no better or worse than the QB's from last year in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Fangios Meatballs

Lmao that’s not how you win. That’s how you become the NY Jets and the the pre baker browns. You would not make a good NFL gm.

Drafting QBs just to draft a QB. Surtain is going to be a pro bowler for a long time. To say picking him and guys like him is worthless is retarded. While fields and Jones haven’t done anything to look like they can be future star QBs.

No it is how you win. You get a Franchise QB first, then you make sure his blindside is protected. On defense you get a guy to earn double and triple teams and then you make sure you have a back end cover guy. I would make a great GM because that's how you do it and when done right teams win SB's. Think back to our last SB and tell me we didn't have those 4 things.

Surtain will be a all-pro but it does nothing for us with out a QB

Originally Posted by Nomad

Wilson won’t win another SB with Seattle. His time there has peaked. All the fans around here know that. NFC west is going to be tough the next few years. He needs to find a team like Brady did.

Wilson hasn't peaked. Not even close. Seattle fans are dumb if they think he has peaked. Shit hopefully the GM feels that way then so he does get traded. I would support Russ here no questions asked if it was a possibility and didn't cost us more then a 1st 2nd and player.

I forgot you have to look amazing at QB instantly for Denver fans or your trash......In Denver its preferred to go with below avg 8 year vets that look like trash their whole career except for maybe 1 year on the field....Denver is there renaissance apparently......oh wait 4 tries later and it isn't.....

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

No it is how you win. You get a Franchise QB first, then you make sure his blindside is protected. On defense you get a guy to earn double and triple teams and then you make sure you have a back end cover guy. I would make a great GM because that's how you do it and when done right teams win SB's. Think back to our last SB and tell me we didn't have those 4 things.

Surtain will be a all-pro but it does nothing for us with out a QB

Nope. You’d be a terrible GM. Too impatient and not understanding of the overall game. The reason I say this is this,

Anyone who watches football knows QB is the most important position in football. I agree we need a QB badly. But you don’t just automatically draft a player because of the position he plays. That’s leads to reaching on players and missing out on pro bowlers at other positions. You said we must draft a qb in round 1 this year. And if he doesn’t play well, do it all over again the year after.

You do that you’ll start becoming the jets and browns (taking trash QBs in 1st round over and over again). What if the QB class looks like the 2013 QB draft class. You gonna draft EJ Manuel with a top 10 pick? If the coaches and GM love the guy then go get him. But to say you must draft a Qb no matter what is reckless and not sound football strategy.

Btw
We didn’t have the top 2 things you mentioned when we won our last super bowl. Just an fyi

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

I forgot you have to look amazing at QB instantly for Denver fans or your trash......In Denver its preferred to go with below avg 8 year vets that look like trash their whole career except for maybe 1 year on the field....Denver is there renaissance apparently......oh wait 4 tries later and it isn't.....

Lmao
You just said draft a QB in round 1 this year and if he stinks do it again next year
Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Northman

Yes and no.

Fields and Jones are also rookies in their first year. Thats not me saying they will be great 2 years from now but its a little early for you to be writing them off because for all we know Surtain could end up going into a sophomore slump or worse. I dont mind the Surtain pick, i liked it personally over taking Fields. And even though the Browns continue to struggle its not all on Baker. Denver unfortunately is still looking for that franchise QB since Elway & Manning. Manning was nice to have but he really was nothing more than a merc for us that turned out great. Denver still needs to prove it can find another franchise QB otherwise it doesnt matter if we have 20 Pat Surtains on this team. At some point you have to try to get that guy, the only issue is you have to make sure the FO does their homework and doesnt reach. Some people think Pickett and Corral are scrubs but personally those two guys are no better or worse than the QB's from last year in my opinion.

The reaching thing was the main point of my post. I don’t believe denver should use a high pick on a QB just for the sake of picking a QB. That’s what I was trying to argue. If Paton and the new coach likes the guy go get him. If not, I’d much rather get one of the top OL prospects. And hope a guy like ridder or Willis fall in round 2.

And yes it’s True it’s too early call anyone a bust and Surtain a future HOF. But they just haven’t passed the eye test. We’ll see how it goes for them. Lance was my favorite QB in the draft. He was the only guy I’d take over Surtain. I was upset when the 49ers took him

Originally Posted by Fangios Meatballs

Lmao that’s not how you win. That’s how you become the NY Jets and the the pre baker browns. You would not make a good NFL gm.

Drafting QBs just to draft a QB. Surtain is going to be a pro bowler for a long time. To say picking him and guys like him is worthless is retarded. While fields and Jones haven’t done anything to look like they can be future star QBs.

What are you babbling on about? This team was pretty well set, they desperately needed a QB and failed miserably rolling with Lock and Teddy. Predictably, they finished with 7 wins, because they had a solid core with no QB.

Originally Posted by Tangerine

What are you babbling on about? This team was pretty well set, they desperately needed a QB and failed miserably rolling with Lock and Teddy. Predictably, they finished with 7 wins, because they had a solid core with no QB.

Learn how to read and you’ll understand what I’m babbling about

Originally Posted by Fangios Meatballs

Lmao
You just said draft a QB in round 1 this year and if he stinks do it again next year
Hahahaha

I don't see Arizona laughing......In fact they are pretty happy they did it.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Wilson hasn't peaked. Not even close. Seattle fans are dumb if they think he has peaked. Shit hopefully the GM feels that way then so he does get traded. I would support Russ here no questions asked if it was a possibility and didn't cost us more then a 1st 2nd and player.

No. His time in Seattle. There’s many mixed messages about staying, but fans feel he wants a new chapter/new team.

Originally Posted by Fangios Meatballs

The reaching thing was the main point of my post. I don’t believe denver should use a high pick on a QB just for the sake of picking a QB. That’s what I was trying to argue. If Paton and the new coach likes the guy go get him. If not, I’d much rather get one of the top OL prospects. And hope a guy like ridder or Willis fall in round 2.

And yes it’s True it’s too early call anyone a bust and Surtain a future HOF. But they just haven’t passed the eye test. We’ll see how it goes for them. Lance was my favorite QB in the draft. He was the only guy I’d take over Surtain. I was upset when the 49ers took him

That's fair but we haven't done a 10 ten pick at Qb since 2006 so maybe we should. Just because you don't like a guy in rd 1 because the draft experts don't like them doesn't mean a team cant develop them into a elite talent so yes you take the guy. You don't take Carson strong or ridder at pick 9 your right so if the top 3 guys are gone by nine then yes you work value but if Pickett, Corral or Willis are on that board at 9 and we don't take one were stupid.