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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Paton has great discretion to be sure, but should be judged on what he has done. He brought in TBW and drafted some players. Made some FA moves, traded Von. Paton did not have discretion for some important decisions like coaching staff. Paton has prioritized allowing his coaching staff to win as they see fit with the roster they have.

    He did not draft Lock, hire Fangio, etc. The preponderance of what we see now is entirely what Elway (and presumably Ellis and other management) has done. It's not as bad as everyone is making out right now. It's close to a great team to be honest, and Elway deserves credit. He deserves credit for bringing in Paton, who looks pretty good so far.

    Elway deserves a ton of credit, but he also deserves fair attribution for what we see today. This team is much more Elway's than it is Paton's.
    Elway's such a mixed bag. Great with PFM. AWFUL classes after PFM. Then towards the middle/end of his reign some of the best draft classes. Some abd lowball offers, some reall ybad cap choices. Some good choices.

    So much nuance. So much Horse God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Kind of extreme but yeah. Although he is a QB which is kind of like kickers and punters when it comes to tackling and such.
    Nope he could have done anything other then what he did, zero effort looked like a bitch and should now go hang with flacco.
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    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    Nope he could have done anything other then what he did, zero effort looked like a bitch and should now go hang with flacco.
    You witnessed it in person!

    You should sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    This is a SB contender roster with AR/DW/RW … JFE can’t be blamed for passing on a QBotF prospect.
    It would have taken big balls for Paton to pull that trigger. He probably should have...QBotF, especially in a draft...so rare to even have that opportunity. I'll give benefit for the medical condition, but it's mainly from uncertainty and not conviction. I guess when Fields comes up to altitude that will be one indication. Living and playing at altitude over and over is a different animal. You seem to think the 'professionals' sussed it as a non-factor. As far as I can tell, it's at least a risk factor.

    But there's a lot of risk factors in QBotF, you can't just hide.
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    It's still hard for me to blame a guy who almost lost his leg to such a grusome injury to be squeamish about making a tackle.

    Having said that, football is a physical game and he should probably think long and hard about if he still has the fortitude to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    It would have taken big balls for Paton to pull that trigger. He probably should have...QBotF, especially in a draft...so rare to even have that opportunity. I'll give benefit for the medical condition, but it's mainly from uncertainty and not conviction. I guess when Fields comes up to altitude that will be one indication. Living and playing at altitude over and over is a different animal. You seem to think the 'professionals' sussed it as a non-factor. As far as I can tell, it's at least a risk factor.

    But there's a lot of risk factors in QBotF, you can't just hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    Nope he could have done anything other then what he did, zero effort looked like a bitch and should now go hang with flacco.
    Well...he never went to a Manning camp, which I believe was one of the skills they taught there--'how to sell that you are selling-out to tackle the defender...with ZERO risk!'
    Quote Originally Posted by Sting
    "You know cos I just lost my parents--both my parents died in the same year...to this day, people come up to me and say 'my dad died and that album really meant a lot to me,' which is very nourishing {pats heart} for a songwriter to hear that your songs have a utility beyond just their own solace, that it actually helps other people."

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    Keep the p&r where it belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    It's still hard for me to blame a guy who almost lost his leg to such a grusome injury to be squeamish about making a tackle.

    Having said that, football is a physical game and he should probably think long and hard about if he still has the fortitude to play it.
    It’s hard for me to blame a bitch for being anything but a bitch, so I feel ya here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    It would have taken big balls for Paton to pull that trigger. He probably should have...QBotF, especially in a draft...so rare to even have that opportunity. I'll give benefit for the medical condition, but it's mainly from uncertainty and not conviction. I guess when Fields comes up to altitude that will be one indication. Living and playing at altitude over and over is a different animal. You seem to think the 'professionals' sussed it as a non-factor. As far as I can tell, it's at least a risk factor.

    But there's a lot of risk factors in QBotF, you can't just hide.
    Right, Paton is a bitch for a GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Right, Paton is a bitch for a GM.
    Most GMs are their first year. The question is where he goes from here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    You witnessed it in person!

    You should sue.

    It was pathetic, and Gordon can f right off out of Denver as well. Williams is the better runner by far and it’s not even close…..
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

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    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Most GMs are their first year. The question is where he goes from here.
    He better bring in Watson, Wilson or rodgers or get 1 of the top 4 Qb’s in the draft. He should keep lock and cut teddy tomorrow. Anything out of that plan he should be fired as well.
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

    FA
    1. With what money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Most GMs are their first year. The question is where he goes from here.
    He extends Bedweter and hires Klint Kubiak/Adam Zimmer.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
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    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Beyond the non-tackle, Teddy was awful today. He had lanes where he could’ve easily run and refused, everything he threw was short. By far his worst game as a Bronco.

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