Thread: No matter what happens teddy is dead as a bronco for me.

Originally Posted by Helios

Give it a rest.

Plummer threw most ints than TDs for years in Arizona with mid 50 completion % yet he got chance after chance and only came good when Shanahan built an offense around his skillset. Quincy Carter got like 4 years with Dallas. Andy Dalton, hell Denver was ready to bring in Kaepernick after it was clear he was a one dimensional guy, Geno Smith who was an interception machine and trouble in the locker room, to Jacoby Brissett.

Just read this again and realized you listed more than Plummer.

Geno Smith only got 2 seasons, so that example doesn't fit either. Andy Dalton was was a borderline pro bowl player his first few years in the league, so that's a ridiculous comp as well. Kap took his team to the Super Bowl, so no. Brisett has had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio every year he's been a starter. So again, no.

Quincy Carter might be the best answer I've seen to my original query: Second round QB who was as bad as Drew Lock through 2 years and got a 3rd season as starter. So well done, someone finally found one. And guess what, he was completely out of the league by year 4. Proving my point that guys like this aren't worth wasting the time on.

Originally Posted by Buff

So Fangio tries to split the difference, uses Teddy's lame excuse... In other words, mealy mouthed --

Teddy did nothing but try not to get hit. He could’ve easily tackled the runner or at least slowed him down a little. He immediately turned away and ducked his head to ensure nobody on the defense would try to block him. He was the only guy in position to make the tackle and actually made an effort not to. That post is pure bullshit.

Originally Posted by Helios

Nah, why bother. You like mediocrity at QB then fine - good for you.
You go ahead and cheer for the Bridgewaters of the world all you want.

Just let others who expect better do the same.

Exactly. **** bridgewater and if that’s the type of garbage you like then go for it. But leave us the hell alone about wanting better. Shoot for the moon and the stars, that’s not what you are into when you go with teddy.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Just read this again and realized you listed more than Plummer.

Geno Smith only got 2 seasons, so that example doesn't fit either. Andy Dalton was was a borderline pro bowl player his first few years in the league, so that's a ridiculous comp as well. Kap took his team to the Super Bowl, so no. Brisett has had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio every year he's been a starter. So again, no.

Quincy Carter might be the best answer I've seen to my original query: Second round QB who was as bad as Drew Lock through 2 years and got a 3rd season as starter. So well done, someone finally found one. And guess what, he was completely out of the league by year 4. Proving my point that guys like this aren't worth wasting the time on.

You narrative that it's never happened has just been destroyed. Interesting you don't mention Plummer...

I didn't remember Jake was a 2nd round pick.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

You narrative that it's never happened has just been destroyed. Interesting you don't mention Plummer...

I didn't remember Jake was a 2nd round pick.

I mentioned it in a separate post last page. He led his team to a winning record and a road playoff win in Dallas his second year. His stats were bad, but the winning is enough to buy him time.

But yes, Quincy Carter destroyed my narrative, so congrats I guess? Guess Drew Lock can be Quincy Carter and be out of the league in 4 years!

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

Fingers crossed… something’s gotta give or I might be not giving a shit for the rest of the season. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Our offense and the definition of insanity are equivalent.

We’ll get to stew on wondering what kind of game plan Fangio & Shurmur can possibly come up with against the Chargers. Teddy’s teammates has to have lost confidence in him.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

Teddy did nothing but try not to get hit. He could’ve easily tackled the runner or at least slowed him down a little. He immediately turned away and ducked his head to ensure nobody on the defense would try to block him. He was the only guy in position to make the tackle and actually made an effort not to. That post is pure bullshit.

Yeah if Slay was running down the sideline, maybe you could accept this explanation -- but Slay was already running inside of Teddy and Teddy did nothing to redirect him or slow him down -- they are just doubling down on the lie.

Originally Posted by Buff

So Fangio tries to split the difference, uses Teddy's lame excuse... In other words, mealy mouthed --

pretty much exactly what we expected-- vic didn't want to disappoint us. . .

Originally Posted by Nomad

We knew this was gonna be Fangio’s decision.

it was obvious. . . honestly, outside of a belief that leadership should provide accountability, i'm fine with it. . . that clown fangio made his bed with his "safe choice" QB, now let him sleep in it. . . when he's fired at the end of the season, no one is going to feel any sympathy for him, and he won't be missed. . .

just get the next hire right, FFS!

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

Teddy did nothing but try not to get hit. He could’ve easily tackled the runner or at least slowed him down a little. He immediately turned away and ducked his head to ensure nobody on the defense would try to block him. He was the only guy in position to make the tackle and actually made an effort not to. That post is pure bullshit.

Originally Posted by Buff

Yeah if Slay was running down the sideline, maybe you could accept this explanation -- but Slay was already running inside of Teddy and Teddy did nothing to redirect him or slow him down -- they are just doubling down on the lie.

all he needed to do was extend his f***ing arms and try to shove the guy! if he missed, no one would have even noticed-- he's a non-athletic QB, not one single damn person anywhere expects that he's going to tackle like a linebacker. . . he doesn't even have to throw his body in the way, or try to wrap the guy up-- if he gives even a half-assed effort to at least make some contact, this is a complete non-story. . . but you can't be a professional athlete making millions of dollars and absolutely quit on a play like that. . .

Originally Posted by Buff

Yeah if Slay was running down the sideline, maybe you could accept this explanation -- but Slay was already running inside of Teddy and Teddy did nothing to redirect him or slow him down -- they are just doubling down on the lie.

And force the returner back inside to WHAT exactly. That was run personnel on the field during that play, so at best (and I don't recall the lineup at the time) we had a receiver lined up wide, a running back, and our TE's along the O-Line in tight. The running back was on his ass and the receiver is out of position to make the play, which means the most athletic guys left are Teddy, Albert O, and Fant because all the fat guys are tangled up. If you have the chance and you are in spitting distance you HAVE to at least make an attempt.

Originally Posted by dogfish

all he needed to do was extend his f***ing arms and try to shove the guy! if he missed, no one would have even noticed-- he's a non-athletic QB, not one single damn person anywhere expects that he's going to tackle like a linebacker. . . he doesn't even have to throw his body in the way, or try to wrap the guy up-- if he gives even a half-assed effort to at least make some contact, this is a complete non-story. . . but you can't be a professional athlete making millions of dollars and absolutely quit on a play like that. . .

That's the craziest thing. I don't even care that he quit on the play. If you watched the game tape for any given player and watch every single play, you'll probably see a few plays they mailed in. But damn, in such a key situation, just at least extend your arms and try to push him. Pretend to try.

Perfect position to stop the run……

Teddy said after watching the tape that he was “pissed” at his lack of effort. The thing is, it doesn’t sound like he was pissed but was just saying that to the media with hopes that the fans forgive him. Teddy seems like a nice guy, but I don’t see any fire or passion when he’s out there running the offense. With the lack of opening drive TDs, he said that they were aware and upset about it but they continue to play uninspired on the opening drives. TB continues to throw short of the 1st downs and unless the receivers are wide open, he refuses to throw it deep. It looked like the eagles gave TB the underneath stuff and just let him have the check downs. Our passing offebse in the RZ is non existent as we will refuse to run any passing plays near the goal line as Pat knows TB doesn’t feel confident in throw into tight coverage in the RZ.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Oh yeah he really seemed to Own It. Sounds like my kids apologizing when I catch them hitting each other when they we toddlers