Thread: 2022 Draft Thread

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Charlie Campbell is hearing rumors as recently as last week that teams and scouts love Willis skillset the most and he has the highest ceiling and most likely will be the the 1st QB selected. Then this will be Followed by Corral and then Pickett.

Day 2 guys are Strong, Ridder and the Howell but many team sources according to Charlie apparently feel Strong and Ridder will both go in rd 1.

I highly doubt he’s the first quarterback taken, there going to tear him down as a prospect the closer to thee draft we get

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler1

I highly doubt he’s the first quarterback taken, there going to tear him down as a prospect the closer to thee draft we get

Why would they tear him down? The only reason i could see for him to drop would be the college he attended and level of competition.

Originally Posted by Northman

Why would they tear him down? The only reason i could see for him to drop would be the college he attended and level of competition.

That’s just what franchises do when they want guy to slip a few spots in the draft

If this year guys like Hurts, Lamar, Allen to an extent, Kyler, Trey lance, and even the tysom guy in MSY do well, then it will boost him right to the top.

Malik has not played well down the stretch, but then again did Trey? If those QBs do well, front offices will see them and project Willis to do the same or better. Those QBs are going to be flooding the NFL landscape, especially once Watson is back in the lineups. Defense are going to have to adjust soon and teams start drafting for those types of players.

Originally Posted by underrated29

If this year guys like Hurts, Lamar, Allen to an extent, Kyler, Trey lance, and even the tysom guy in MSY do well, then it will boost him right to the top.

Malik has not played well down the stretch, but then again did Trey? If those QBs do well, front offices will see them and project Willis to do the same or better. Those QBs are going to be flooding the NFL landscape, especially once Watson is back in the lineups. Defense are going to have to adjust soon and teams start drafting for those types of players.

I agree, the more success that a lot of the young QB's in the NFL have the likelihood that Malik goes top 5.

Willis will raise or fall depending on how he does interviews and how he does on the board talking football. The physical skills are there.

Since QB will mostly be irrelevant if Fangio comes back perhaps we should just go edge or OT this draft. I have zero hope in a rookie with this staff atm. Gimme a edge rusher instead at this point, although that's not a given either since Fangio likes to put pass rushers in coverage and guys who cant pass rush well at the LOS rushing the passer......

I'd prefer bringing in a vet over any 1st round rookie QB. If the board falls poorly and the best OT and pass rush options are gone, OK, grab a project. If we even think about moving up for any of these schmucks, I may reconsider my fandom...




...he said in jest.

I still like Ridder. Would be an ideal option if we trade back to stockpile more picks. We already have extra in rounds 2 and 3. Move back a few for a guy like Ridder and get a future 1 and another 2 this year. Got your QB project and we could theoretically fix a lot with 5 more picks in the top 90.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

I still like Ridder. Would be an ideal option if we trade back to stockpile more picks. We already have extra in rounds 2 and 3. Move back a few for a guy like Ridder and get a future 1 and another 2 this year. Got your QB project and we could theoretically fix a lot with 5 more picks in the top 90.

Ridder is an intriguing prospect.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/d...der/egzbnFBW6X

So my biggest issue with Ridder is this:

Progressions: Ridder can work progressions but asking him to consistently serve as a drop-back passer that has to exhaust progressions wouldn’t be the best utilization of his skill set. He’s the type of quarterback that will require a mix of manufactured throws, moving the pocket, RPOs, and involvement in the run game. He can do more to manipulate coverage with his eyes and execute full-field reads with consistency.

That's not a death sentence in the NFL these days. But eventually he's going to have to be solid at that. How good is the coaching going to be? How good will the OC be at finding a starting point for the rookie QB and guiding him to that endpoint?

Originally Posted by King87

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/d...der/egzbnFBW6X

So my biggest issue with Ridder is this:

Progressions: Ridder can work progressions but asking him to consistently serve as a drop-back passer that has to exhaust progressions wouldn’t be the best utilization of his skill set. He’s the type of quarterback that will require a mix of manufactured throws, moving the pocket, RPOs, and involvement in the run game. He can do more to manipulate coverage with his eyes and execute full-field reads with consistency.

That's not a death sentence in the NFL these days. But eventually he's going to have to be solid at that. How good is the coaching going to be? How good will the OC be at finding a starting point for the rookie QB and guiding him to that endpoint?

Which is why I would prefer a trade back scenario if we look at QB in a poor class like this. They are all flawed.
I think Fields would be the no brainer 1st QB off the board in this draft. How long did he wait to get picked in 2021?

Sure, we invest a 1st for the position. But we also gain picks to somewhat counterbalance the risk. This crop has nobody I would go all in for. If we can add 2 or 3 picks to strengthen the functional depth of the entire roster, it's a risk well worth taking IMHO.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

Which is why I would prefer a trade back scenario if we look at QB in a poor class like this. They are all flawed.
I think Fields would be the no brainer 1st QB off the board in this draft. How long did he wait to get picked in 2021?

Sure, we invest a 1st for the position. But we also gain picks to somewhat counterbalance the risk. This crop has nobody I would go all in for. If we can add 2 or 3 picks to strengthen the functional depth of the entire roster, it's a risk well worth taking IMHO.

Fields should have been a top five pick. That's a different rant, but the Jets are about the worst evaluators and thinkers in the NFL. Wilson, even if he could be a good QB, is doomed there. It's more telling that SF went with Trey Lance. Fields was legitimate as a prospect. I wish Pitt had him. )=

I don't disagree with your strategy at all. I'm just talking about Ridder in general. I think that he--like many QB's--could work his way into the first round. He's second on the list of QB's for this draft class, IMO.

I think Pickett will be a better pro than Fields personally. But lets face it, all of the rookie QB's this year have looked pretty bland at times so there really is no sure fire pick in my opinion. My only problem with taking Ridder is i dont want anymore projects in the second round which is where is projected to go. I just think its high time Denver went after a 1st round talent and took the position seriously for once.

Originally Posted by Northman

I think Pickett will be a better pro than Fields personally. But lets face it, all of the rookie QB's this year have looked pretty bland at times so there really is no sure fire pick in my opinion. My only problem with taking Ridder is i dont want anymore projects in the second round which is where is projected to go. I just think its high time Denver went after a 1st round talent and took the position seriously for once.

I don't blame you. If there were one or more blue chippers it'd probably be worth it to just pony up and take one. Half-measures are only great when you're in a position to take them. Ideally Denver would trade for an established stud QB and then nab someone like Ridder and develop them on the bench. That'd be the best of both worlds. Plus then you can get rid of Lock and end that saga.