Thread: We need to talk about Dan Quinn

Originally Posted by King87

Every generation feels like the ones coming behind can't do the job until they actually do it.

You are a mummy, a husk of a man, and devoid of a soul. I curse you. You are now doomed.

yeah. . . it's always good to have slim in the house-- even if i wanted to fight him right up to the pre-ordained bit. . .

Originally Posted by slim

Maybe he is the best option, but if he is, why such a weak list of interviewees? (Is that a word)

aside from pederson, who else would you have wanted?

I love Slim. But he hurt me, especially by ignoring what's happening in the NFL now. Slim has betrayed me, and I'll never forgi...oh who am I kidding I'd give my McRib to Slim. I can't quit him.

Originally Posted by King87

Every generation feels like the ones coming behind can't do the job until they actually do it.

You are a mummy, a husk of a man, and devoid of a soul. I curse you. You are now doomed.

I disagree.

Young folks drive innovation in a lot of ways. You are correct about that.

But integrating ideas into mainstream thought takes a different skill set. It takes an understanding of human interaction, which is something that takes experience to understand.

I know you will minimize this based on your own experience…which is kind of perfect, if you think about it.

Originally Posted by dogfish

aside from pederson, who else would you have wanted?

Yeah, the most noteworthy guys the Broncos aren’t considering are Pederson, Daboll, and Leftwich. And maybe Flores and DeMeco Ryans.

Originally Posted by slim

I disagree.

Young folks drive innovation in a lot of ways. You are correct about that.

But integrating ideas into mainstream thought takes a different skill set. It takes an understanding of human interaction, which is something that takes experience to understand.

I know you will minimize this based on your own experience…which is kind of perfect, if you think about it.

You are in your right to disagree.

Young folks drive innovation, I agree.

However, a lot of facts dispute your assessment. If the swathe of young head coaches who were barely coordinators/if coordinators at all (McVay, Shanahan, Vrabel, Harbaugh, Tomlin, Sriacha from Philly, Taylor, and so and so forth) doesn't hammer that home, I can find a lot of other examples. How many youngsters tear it up these days in Silicon Valley and Wall Street? They're doing more than just innovation. Even in a traditional and old school field, such as law, look at the youth on the Supreme Court. Wanna talk about human interaction?

If you want to talk about interaction, how about how NFL coaches that are younger are better able to relate with their players? That literally is an accepted fact and literally contradicts your point.

And you cannot accuse any of those arguments I just made as minimalizing.

Originally Posted by King87

You are in your right to disagree.

Young folks drive innovation, I agree.

However, a lot of facts dispute your assessment. If the swathe of young head coaches who were barely coordinators/if coordinators at all (McVay, Shanahan, Vrabel, Harbaugh, Tomlin, Sriacha from Philly, Taylor, and so and so forth) doesn't hammer that home, I can find a lot of other examples. How many youngsters tear it up these days in Silicon Valley and Wall Street? They're doing more than just innovation. Even in a traditional and old school field, such as law, look at the youth on the Supreme Court. Wanna talk about human interaction?

If you want to talk about interaction, how about how NFL coaches that are younger are better able to relate with their players? That literally is an accepted fact and literally contradicts your point.

And you cannot accuse any of those arguments I just made as minimalizing.

May or may not apply to this argument, but...

In my world, there is no replacement for experience. Youth and inexperience can get people hurt if not cultivated by those with time in.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

May or may not apply to this argument, but...

In my world, there is no replacement for experience. Youth and inexperience can get people hurt if not cultivated by those with time in.

People get hurt more by the reverse just as much, but we don't talk about that a lot.

Regarding the NFL, proof's in the pudding. Whether people want to admit it or not. You either have it or you don't. Just turns out that NFL GMs are finding out younger folks are much more capable than previously thought. You can't give it to anyone, not all youngsters are equal.

Originally Posted by King87

You are in your right to disagree.

Young folks drive innovation, I agree.

However, a lot of facts dispute your assessment. If the swathe of young head coaches who were barely coordinators/if coordinators at all (McVay, Shanahan, Vrabel, Harbaugh, Tomlin, Sriacha from Philly, Taylor, and so and so forth) doesn't hammer that home, I can find a lot of other examples. How many youngsters tear it up these days in Silicon Valley and Wall Street? They're doing more than just innovation. Even in a traditional and old school field, such as law, look at the youth on the Supreme Court. Wanna talk about human interaction?

If you want to talk about interaction, how about how NFL coaches that are younger are better able to relate with their players? That literally is an accepted fact and literally contradicts your point.

And you cannot accuse any of those arguments I just made as minimalizing.

I agree. We should hire VJ.

The young guy is always the right guy!!

Your arguments are garbage and I’m not wasting time on them. Be better.

I've also found that the best teacher is failure. Just because some young folks show up and are innovative, doesn't mean they can't, themselves, improve due to their experiences. The important part of their evolution is how they adjust to those who catch on to their innovations. Are they a 1 trick pony? Can they adjust to adjustments?

As with every aspect of life...balance is key.

Originally Posted by slim

I agree. We should hire VJ.

The young guy is always the right guy!!

Your arguments are garbage and I’m not wasting time on them. Be better.

I literally never said "hire just any young guy," but you represent that as my argument because you have no valid rebuttal. I never said the younger guy was always right, but you represent that as my argument.

Don't get pissy with me because you can't support your position.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

I've also found that the best teacher is failure. Just because some young folks show up and are innovative, doesn't mean they can't, themselves, improve due to their experiences.

As with every aspect of life...balance is key.

Who said they can't get better? That point would actually strengthen the case for hiring a younger person, all things considered.

Originally Posted by King87

Every generation feels like the ones coming behind can't do the job until they actually do it.

You are a mummy, a husk of a man, and devoid of a soul. I curse you. You are now doomed.

Good grief.

This is perfect. I listen to everyone, regardless of their age. Some have good ideas, some don’t.

The difference between you and me is that I listen.

Go on and pound the table. Being loud and stubborn doesn’t make you right.

Originally Posted by slim

Good grief.

This is perfect. I listen to everyone, regardless of their age. Some have good ideas, some don’t.

The difference between you and me is that I listen.

Go on and pound the table. Being loud and stubborn doesn’t make you right.

I'm sure you do. I didn't say you didn't.

You have no idea as to who I am as a person. Pretending that you do doesn't make it so. In the real world I have meaningful conversations every day with people who are and think differently than I do. Just because I argue hard and fold when someone wants me to doesn't mean I'm stubborn. Or just being loud. Or that I don't listen. Congratulations on taking a football conversation and turning it into a potshot fest. I could just as easily accuse you of being stubborn, or anything you shove my way. The difference is, to borrow your verbiage, is that I don't see the worst in you, or presume it.

Originally Posted by King87

I literally never said "hire just any young guy," but you represent that as my argument because you have no valid rebuttal. I never said the younger guy was always right, but you represent that as my argument.

Don't get pissy with me because you can't support your position.

You said what you said. It’s all good, my man.

You are an ageist. It be what it be.