Thread: How was no one fired today?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Good point.

And it's why I'm not all that confident the next guy we hire isn't going to do any better. Probably will just be another mediocre stretch until we get an owner who will clean house and hopefully build it back correctly from the ground up. Or some shit head will buy the team and the broncos we knew and loved will be dead forever. It's dark times.

Bezos needs to hurry it up and own tf out of us. Free 2 day shipping for all Broncos memorabilia.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Bezos needs to hurry it up and own tf out of us. Free 2 day shipping for all Broncos memorabilia.

Your next hoodie is coming ASAP.

Give these coaches til end of season. I agree with what Wave said. It’s only a feel-good for the fans.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

No, my post is about the only one that's rational on this topic. Firing the coach midseason makes everyone feel good in the short term. It ultimately is meaningless when it happens if we botch the next hire too.

I actually don’t think it’s rational at all. If you had a manager in a position at your company who kept screwing up, would you just let them “ride it out” to see what happens while the rest of your employees are miserable because of their manager’s blunders or would you get rid of that person and temporarily promote someone else to the responsibility that may get better results while you search for a permanent replacement? You’d be doing your company a huge disservice leaving an incompetent manager or supervisor in charge. Lost production, mistakes, no improvement, no team development, same bad habits perpetuated the rest of the time that manager is in charge, etc.

I think you know that if Paton or whoever has decided this isn’t working and that Fangio will be let go, it’s better to do it now and see if you can continue to develop your team with someone else in charge. It might actually energize the team. Addition by subtraction is a real thing. If nothing else, it sets the standard and puts a little fear into the workforce that they might be next if they don’t shape up. The current leader has little to do with the results of the hiring of the next guy.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I actually don’t think it’s rational at all. If you had a manager in a position at your company who kept screwing up, would you just let them “ride it out” to see what happens while the rest of your employees are miserable because of their manager’s blunders or would you get rid of that person and temporarily promote someone else to the responsibility that may get better results while you search for a permanent replacement? You’d be doing your company a huge disservice leaving an incompetent manager or supervisor in charge. Lost production, mistakes, no improvement, no team development, same bad habits perpetuated the rest of the time that manager is in charge, etc.

I think you know that if Paton or whoever has decided this isn’t working and that Fangio will be let go, it’s better to do it now and see if you can continue to develop your team with someone else in charge. It might actually energize the team. Addition by subtraction is a real thing. If nothing else, it sets the standard and puts a little fear into the workforce that they might be next if they don’t shape up. The current leader has little to do with the results of the hiring of the next guy.

But you're comparing a company that doesn't have a season per se, to the NFL, that does.

That's just a different beast, IMO.

FWIW, I still think he should be fired, because he's old and dumb.

Originally Posted by King87

But you're comparing a company that doesn't have a season per se, to the NFL, that does.

That's just a different beast, IMO.

FWIW, I still think he should be fired, because he's old and dumb.

I'm judged every quarter, so...

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

I'm judged every quarter, so...

You have no offseason, which is sort of my point. You're judged all the time, because you don't need no stinkin' offseason!

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I actually don’t think it’s rational at all. If you had a manager in a position at your company who kept screwing up, would you just let them “ride it out” to see what happens while the rest of your employees are miserable because of their manager’s blunders or would you get rid of that person and temporarily promote someone else to the responsibility that may get better results while you search for a permanent replacement? You’d be doing your company a huge disservice leaving an incompetent manager or supervisor in charge. Lost production, mistakes, no improvement, no team development, same bad habits perpetuated the rest of the time that manager is in charge, etc.

I think you know that if Paton or whoever has decided this isn’t working and that Fangio will be let go, it’s better to do it now and see if you can continue to develop your team with someone else in charge. It might actually energize the team. Addition by subtraction is a real thing. If nothing else, it sets the standard and puts a little fear into the workforce that they might be next if they don’t shape up. The current leader has little to do with the results of the hiring of the next guy.

Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be fired. If it happened today, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think it matters when everyone above him might be just as incompetent.

And the NFL isn't your everyday company. I'm not sure how many of those analogies really apply here.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be fired. If it happened today, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think it matters when everyone above him might be just as incompetent.

And the NFL isn't your everyday company. I'm not sure how many of those analogies really apply here.

You’re spot on here, Wave.

Maybe there’s the LSU/Orgeran kinda thing going on.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be fired. If it happened today, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think it matters when everyone above him might be just as incompetent.

And the NFL isn't your everyday company. I'm not sure how many of those analogies really apply here.

If they lose the next three games I think it’s possible he’ll be fired during the bye. But yeah, probably not before then, and very possibly not even then.

Originally Posted by Mozzafiato

If they lose the next three games I think it’s possible he’ll be fired during the bye. But yeah, probably not before then, and very possibly not even then.

I'm not a big midseason firing guy, but after another loss or so, if I'm Paton I go in saying "Your job now is to evaluate talent for the future of the franchise. Play Lock to see what we have going forward."

If that meets resistance, you terminate.

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

I'm not a big midseason firing guy, but after another loss or so, if I'm Paton I go in saying "Your job now is to evaluate talent for the future of the franchise. Play Lock to see what we have going forward."

If that meets resistance, you terminate.

I’m sorry but if we trot teddy out there vs Washington front 4 he’s going to be forced into interceptions guaranteed, I just hope his floaters doesn’t get anymore people hurt while we lose #5 in a row because we’re definitely going to lose vs Washington if you trot teddy out there again.

Here’s to looking forward to Fangio and shurmer being fired and teddy benched after the Washington loss