This checks out.Originally Posted by Hawgdriver
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This checks out.
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Tim Patrick went from a solid #2 receiver to starting to get national recognition for his flawless performance on the field. The guy catches everything and he’s started to get attention. He should be our #1 receiver if we had to choose between him and Sutton going forward...
Last edited by Strafen; 11-13-2021 at 09:44 AM.
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Oh yeah? you think Patrick and Sutton have better arms than teddy and lock?
But nah really I think a lot of you are just saying Patrick because he’s been the flavor of the year. Seems like people forgetting how dominant Sutton was pre injury and the fact that once he makes it through this season without any issues he’s coming back next year the courtland we saw before the injury but better. Sutton was legit cooking shit in the NFL. It’s a tough decision because both aren’t going to be here long term but aslong as Sutton keeps playing and finishes the season in good health with the knees or what not then I’m riding with him because the dude is a beast and this year you can tell he’s just working his way back, building the trust in the knee and getting better. By like week 14 you’ll probably see Sutton numbers take off a bit aslong as the QB gets him the ball
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It’s really a toss up. Sutton has a flair for the spectacular. That guy can make some catches that blows anyone away. He’s really good no doubt.
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Oh this is good shit. Jaded gets all excited about a player, then the nerds find him and…so much confusion.
Patrick is a nice player. He’s not Jeudy and he’s not Sutton, and hopefully the Broncos don’t get sucked in to thinking he’s better.
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You’d think geeks would be better at explaining their stats.
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Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
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What is DVOA?
THE ULTRA-SHORT VERSION:
DVOA measures a team's (or player’s) efficiency by comparing success on every single play to a league average based on situation and opponent.
THE SHORT VERSION:
DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: Five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative. For more detail, read below.
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Yup DVOA gives a lot of context
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What I respect about Tim Patrick is he went from a stiff straight line glider to a guy that uses his hands to fight against press and he's developed that rare ability in WRs to separate his upper body from his legs when he turns to look back for the ball or when he's on top of his stem and about to cut.
I always respect self made players that work hard at their craft and Patrick is that and then some. He would put up obscene numbers with a real QB.
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Tim Patrick has that Rod Smith work ethic about him. He has worked his butt off every year he has been here and improved a great deal during that time. It has been fun watching him get better every week the past 2 years. I don't know what his ceiling is, but it is much higher that I used to think it was. If I had to pick between Sutton and Patrick, I would pick Patrick. He isn't as explosive, but he is more efficient, and will get similar production for less cap money. Plus the way Patrick keeps improving, he could end up being a better and more complete WR in the long run. Both players are getting paid this offseason, and they both deserve it.
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Just heard that the broncos signed Patrick to a 3-year, 30 million extension.
- John Elway“When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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