Thread: Fire Paton

Originally Posted by Jaded

I skipped to the end to find this … I’m mildly intrigued.

He isn't wrong, I don't think any of this is Paton's fault in fact I wasn't upset we brought in Teddy b at a decent salary with easy outs if needed end of season, Not one football person can tell me Teddy B isn't better then case rypien, Brandon allen and F'in Driskel, our Qb room was trash last year. I don't buy any conspiracy here. Paton has been pretty much upfront from the get go about the QB position, I think he likes lock and with 2 years left expects him to keep working. I also doubt he will even sniff retaining Fangio and or Teddy B unless this team is in the playoffs and makes some noise. I also believe he fully intends to make a major push for Rodgers next year.

I can’t help but think Elway’s ego played into all of this. If they’d hired Paton, he got to clean house with the coaching staff and QBs , and things started to turn around, Paton would get all the credit for fixing the Broncos. But, by keeping mostly everything they had, Elway can still take most of the credit, as it was his guys.

Originally Posted by Mike Hawk

I can’t help but think Elway’s ego played into all of this. If they’d hired Paton, he got to clean house with the coaching staff and QBs , and things started to turn around, Paton would get all the credit for fixing the Broncos. But, by keeping mostly everything they had, Elway can still take most of the credit, as it was his guys.

GM should have authority to hire his own coaching staff. in this case, Elway and Ellis didn't allow it.
That's the reason we need a owner.

Paton should have just drafted a QB or get Stafford(whatever it takes). we are now stuck with TB and Lock.

There is no need to draft a CB in first round. it's a luxury. what he will do when there is no QB?

Originally Posted by Zerovoltz

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ead-coach-2021

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...ain-vic-fangio

https://www.greeleytribune.com/2020/...-coach-2021-2/

https://sports.yahoo.com/broncos-to-...hssrp_catchall

https://koanewsradio.iheart.com/cont...-back-in-2021/

I read all of these, and unless I missed it, this is the comment you made which my response was for:

"Elway publicly declared, that A) Paton would not have control of hiring and firing staff untill 2022, and B) Elway would still hold final say on "major decisisons" until 2022. "

Originally Posted by Mike Hawk

I can’t help but think Elway’s ego played into all of this. If they’d hired Paton, he got to clean house with the coaching staff and QBs , and things started to turn around, Paton would get all the credit for fixing the Broncos. But, by keeping mostly everything they had, Elway can still take most of the credit, as it was his guys.

I wish Mike Hawk's posts lasted longer. Mike Hawk just seems to get going and then it's all over. Just little dribbles here and there that leave everyone wanting.

Originally Posted by go_broncos143

GM should have authority to hire his own coaching staff. in this case, Elway and Ellis didn't allow it.
That's the reason we need a owner.

Paton should have just drafted a QB or get Stafford(whatever it takes). we are now stuck with TB and Lock.

There is no need to draft a CB in first round. it's a luxury. what he will do when there is no QB?

There’s noway Surtain could ever be considered a wasted pick. The guy is going to be elite at his position the next 15 year’s locking down one side of the field

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

I read all of these, and unless I missed it, this is the comment you made which my response was for:

"Elway publicly declared, that A) Paton would not have control of hiring and firing staff untill 2022, and B) Elway would still hold final say on "major decisisons" until 2022. "

https://denverfan.com/2094405/with-j...-handcuffeed/?

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/01/0...d-fresh-ideas/

When Elway declared on DEC 28th the staff would be retained....and later when he said Fangio would be involved in the GM search....what else can I say...he said the staff would be back publicly....he further reinforced that when he said Fangio was in on helping pick the new GM.....

Originally Posted by Zerovoltz

When Elway declared on DEC 28th the staff would be retained....and later when he said Fangio would be involved in the GM search....what else can I say...he said the staff would be back publicly....he further reinforced that when he said Fangio was in on helping pick the new GM.....

Yep... Elway clearly mentioned that Fangio will be involved in GM search. FO and Ellis are doing whatever they want as there is no owner.

Draft and develop: George Paton explains vision as Denver Broncos' GM, stating he'd 'like to win a Super Bowl here'

Long article, but very interesting. https://gazette.com/sports/broncos/d...6cf29a78c.html

Is the OP Blood of the City?

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

Draft and develop: George Paton explains vision as Denver Broncos' GM, stating he'd 'like to win a Super Bowl here'

Long article, but very interesting. https://gazette.com/sports/broncos/d...6cf29a78c.html

Win a SB with game manager QB’s? And with the game manager QB that’s least likely to ever break character?

He’s bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Win a SB with game manager QB’s? And with the game manager QB that’s least likely to ever break character?

He’s bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Be more dramatic.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Win a SB with game manager QB’s? And with the game manager QB that’s least likely to ever break character?

He’s bringing a knife to a gunfight.

I think Paton has turned out to be a bit delusional...

Originally Posted by Jaded

Win a SB with game manager QB’s? And with the game manager QB that’s least likely to ever break character?

He’s bringing a knife to a gunfight.

I’d like to challenge that vision he’s got. We’ve got an awesome team and the best person he could. One up with for the job of leading this team, was Teddy Bridgewater. That’s how teams with potential never amount to be anything, and will always struggle to get over the hump...