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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    It was Teddy's worst game of the year, the L is pretty much on him & Shurmur -- and his style of play is extremely frustrating. He is risk-averse to a fault. So I'm not sitting here trying to be a Teddy apologist... My point is merely that Teddy is better than Heinicke at all of those stats - and so your subjective comparison is just wrong, and it's undermining the point you're trying to make... Just as it does when people bring up Drew Lock.

    Teddy has enough flaws in his game that we don't need to resort to hyperbole to critique him.
    I won't argue with you - if that's your opinion then fine, that's great.
    Air yards/yards per completion are pretty normalized numbers now to compare QBs.

    It's not just something I'm making up here.

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    I’ll take Teddy Bedweter over Heinousky, all day/every day.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangerine View Post
    I hate this saying, but it’s trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. They get 3 flashy, big play receivers, then pair them up with a QB who rarely throws to receivers. I think Teddy has only had one 1000 yard receiver his whole career, DJ Moore last year, who had 1193 yards.

    Even then, Moore’s best game last year was the game PJ Walker started (127 yards). An undrafted, XFL QB, making his first start, threw to the teams best receiver more than Teddy ever did. Pretty telling stat.
    Wow, we need to explore this stat … even if you’re off a smidge it’s still a pretty telling stat.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    i dont blame teddy, this is what this guy has been since he was drafted by Patton on the Vikings.

    I blame the people who think this is the goal. Fangio, Patton, Shurmur. Even Joe Ellis.

    If we had hire Shnny this garbage wouldn't be happening.

    They all need to go, i dont care if Patton has a few good draft picks. He is completely inept in other areas of management.
    I’m not so sure, the Shanatan’s love their game managers.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    I won't argue with you - if that's your opinion then fine, that's great.
    Air yards/yards per completion are pretty normalized numbers now to compare QBs.

    It's not just something I'm making up here.
    I agree, they are pretty normalized.

    Air yards per pass 2021 --

    12. Teddy Bridgewater - 8.1
    17. Taylor Heinicke - 7.6

    Yards per completion 2021 --

    19. Teddy Bridgewater - 10.9
    25. Taylor Heinicke - 10.5

    This is why it's difficult to have an objective conversation about Teddy sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    I agree, they are pretty normalized.

    Air yards per pass 2021 --

    12. Teddy Bridgewater - 8.1
    17. Taylor Heinicke - 7.6

    Yards per completion 2021 --

    19. Teddy Bridgewater - 10.9
    25. Taylor Heinicke - 10.5

    This is why it's difficult to have an objective conversation about Teddy sometimes.
    That's cool - so why does he play like checkdown charlie so often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    That's cool - so why does he play like checkdown charlie so often?
    Because he bolstered his stats the first 3 weeks and has been downhill since. Look at his stats from the last 3 games, horrendous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    I agree, they are pretty normalized.

    Air yards per pass 2021 --

    12. Teddy Bridgewater - 8.1
    17. Taylor Heinicke - 7.6

    Yards per completion 2021 --

    19. Teddy Bridgewater - 10.9
    25. Taylor Heinicke - 10.5

    This is why it's difficult to have an objective conversation about Teddy sometimes.
    You e got to be kidding!
    Do you actually watch any football games?
    I don’t know how a Twitter post can Trump what you’ve seen...

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    Lol people still arguing over this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    That's cool - so why does he play like checkdown charlie so often?
    No, sorry, that's not how this works... Your entire line of reasoning just got thoroughly and completely debunked - you need to just take your L and go sit on the bench for a while.

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    If TB’s terribleness isn’t enough suffering for you already, watch Jeudy’s effort to make a tackle towards the end of this play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    No, sorry, that's not how this works... Your entire line of reasoning just got thoroughly and completely debunked - you need to just take your L and go sit on the bench for a while.
    Nah, I'm enjoying how you're trying to prove Bridgewater is not captain checkdown charlie.
    And no, nothing got debunked. I was specifically talking about Heinicki's game against the raiders and that's why I put up the video of his throws from that game and how it's about the mentality of a QB choosing to make longer and more difficult throws.

    You're the one who took that specific post and started talking about his entire season's worth of play instead of looking at the context of this past weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Nah, I'm enjoying how you're trying to prove Bridgewater is not captain checkdown charlie.
    teddy isn't captain checkdown. . . more like lord commander checkdown. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Would it bother people to know that Drew has an even less yd per pass completion rate or no? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Would it bother people to know that Drew has an even less yd per pass completion rate or no? Lol
    Drew sucked last year.

    I was more interested in seeing whether he could figure it out this year in the slim chance that his on the field play could match his talent.
    Neither QB is worth the sweat of my balls frankly.

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