Thread: MLB players caught using foreign substances on balls to be ejected, suspended for 10 games

Originally Posted by Northman

So what you are saying is the Astros are the New England Patriots of baseball.

I don't believe that the consistency of cheating of Houston, when compared to NE, is commensurate

But, this scandal was far worse than anything we can prove NE did

Basically the Astros WS isn't a serious title

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

It's obvious to me that MLB wants to make the Astros the focus of the crime and pretend nobody else was involved. They totally whitewashed the 2018 Red Sox. You mean to tell me that the video room guy for the Sox was decoding signals but NOT passing them to the team's players and management? That's what MLB wants you to believe. MLB is fighting like hell to keep a letter sealed that was sent to the Yankees about sign-stealing which wound up in the courts. Why, if they were trying to be transparent? Carlos Beltran came to Houston in the offseason before 2017 bragging that the Astros were way behind in the art of sign-stealing. He'd spent the previous year with the Yankees. In a recent podcast, former Astro Erik Kratz said that, as a Brewer, he turned in the Astros *and two other teams* that he knew were stealing signals. But he then refused to say what two other teams.

Just like the pitching infractions, sign-stealing is a known issue dating all the way back to the Fifties. If they just fitted pitchers and catchers with wireless signals like the NFL uses, there would be no point to any of this. Only baseball prefers to live like it's the 1880s instead of the 2020s.

They didn't whitewash the Red Sox scandal, that's been heavily discussed in the media

It's also incredible that you equate old-fashioned cheating to this, because no one else does, including the players, managers, and the league

But I guess you have to represent that position given your stance

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

This guy deleted all of this, recanted, apologized and said he could not verify the information, FYI.

I saw that. His life had also been threatened multiple times in many different ways and he was covering his ass. Doesn't meant that his claims are without merit.

Originally Posted by King87

This is chicancery is inaccurate!

Don't try to step in and save Hoof!

He's a habitual line stepper, and he needs this discipline!

I'm not trying to save anyone, just pointing out the fact that it's wholly ignorant to think that the Astros were the only team doing these shenanigans.

Originally Posted by SR

I'm not trying to save anyone, just pointing out the fact that it's wholly ignorant to think that the Astros were the only team doing these shenanigans.

I suppose, but that distracts from the main point of the Astros cheated throughout the playoffs and are poops!

Originally Posted by King87

I suppose, but that distracts from the main point of the Astros cheated throughout the playoffs and are poops!

They did. No denying that. They also have the best offense, one of the best defenses, and best run differential in baseball this year. So, there's that too.

Originally Posted by SR

They did. No denying that. They also have the best offense, one of the best defenses, and best run differential in baseball this year. So, there's that too.

They're good at baseball

Originally Posted by King87

They're good at baseball

Yes. They are. Better than the Dodgers.

Originally Posted by SR

Yes. They are. Better than the Dodgers.

Well, no one buys that they were better in world series* they 'won', and the Dodgers just won a WS, and made it the year prior, so

Nah

Originally Posted by King87

Well, no one buys that they were better in world series* they 'won', and the Dodgers just won a WS, and made it the year prior, so

Nah

We were talking about this season, no?

Originally Posted by SR

We were talking about this season, no?

Well, this season the Dodgers have the same record and have suffered a rash of injuries, so it's debatable, but your position is supportable!

Poop face!

Originally Posted by SR

We were talking about this season, no?

Well, this season the Dodgers have the same record and have suffered a rash of injuries, so it's debatable, but your position is supportable!

Poop face!

Originally Posted by King87

Well, this season the Dodgers have the same record and have suffered a rash of injuries, so it's debatable, but your position is supportable!

Poop face!

I think the Dodgers are going to finish third in the NL West behind San Fran and San Diego.

Originally Posted by SR

I think the Dodgers are going to finish third in the NL West behind San Fran and San Diego.

If we squander one of the best rosters in recent memory, then we have no one to blame but ourselves!

Originally Posted by King87

If we squander one of the best rosters in recent memory, then we have no one to blame but ourselves!

You know what would be amazing? If the Dodgers and Astros were in the World Series again and the Astros beat them again. Man. That would make me so happy. Wouldn't it be cool?