Thread: James done for 3rd straight year

Originally Posted by King87

Is shurm the worm hated here?

Shane and I didn't get birthday invites. Oh and Denver Native doesn't subscribe to his newsletter.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Shane and I didn't get birthday invites. Oh and Denver Native doesn't subscribe to his newsletter.

15 years ago he was the man.

Originally Posted by King87

15 years ago he was the man.

How do you tease out his contribution rather than Reid's? It seems every gas-on offense he was a part of, it was as deputy to the actual 'genius' (Chip Kelly, Andy Reid).

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

How do you tease out his contribution rather than Reid's? It seems every gas-on offense he was a part of, it was as deputy to the actual 'genius' (Chip Kelly, Andy Reid).

Reid had him there for a reason. I also think that Denver knows how valuable OC Kubiak was, even though he was attached to Shanahan. For reference, Shurmur started out in Philadelphia coaching the line and tight ends. Reid kept promoting him.

I also think (and this is pure opinion) that Kelly wasn't a NFL level genius. So I struggle to ding him for that. But, Kelly also called the plays there. Shurmur called plays in his later stints.

Reid has given up playcalling duties in the past. Also worth remembering.

Shurmur is a good football coach. He's not a good head coach. And given how he seems to refuse to update what he wants to do -the opposite of Reid- maybe the game has moved past him.

When Shurmur was hired I thought 'there's a solid coach with a good reputation. He'll stabilize things'. Especially after the horridity of Scangarello. And...nope.

Or maybe he was just one of those coaches that people liked, didn't absolutely suck, and got jobs that way.

Some people on here are probably relieved that they now have an excuse to give Lock another shot in 2022

I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread.

Originally Posted by kenoy28

Some people on here are probably relieved that they now have an excuse to give Lock another shot in 2022

Yep the excuse train is already starting.

yall really dont want me to get started on shurmur.

This dude ran Steven Jackson into the ground, got Sam Bradford hurt. Got micheal vick hurt. had a good season with foles, lesean mccoy, desean jackson and zach ertz. One of the most explosive group of players together.

He gets credit for Case Keenum for some reason. When all Keenum did was dump it off to Adam Theilan and Diggs.

Pat Shurmur refuses to leave tes in to help tackles against elite edge rushers. Leaving his Qbs getting destroyed and playing hurt most of the time. I could probably go on for another hour. but yea....

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Yep the excuse train is already starting.

If he can't do it this year, regardless of a shaky RT, it's over. At least in Denver.

Originally Posted by kenoy28

Some people on here are probably relieved that they now have an excuse to give Lock another shot in 2022

i gave Lock "excuses" the moment Shurmur was hired.

Lock has 6 games to prove that he's worth a damn.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Lock has 6 games to prove that he's worth a damn.

Then we get Prince Bridgewater!!

i think he already proved hes worth a damn his rookie year.

so, we knew it was gonna happen at some point-- getting hurt is what this dude does. . . with that said, it's probably better in the long run that we got it out of the way now. . . there aren't a ton of great options out there to replace him, but the pickings are better than they will be in october. . . and if calvin anderson is going to replace him, at least now he can get all the reps in camp, and he has a chance to start building chemistry with glasgow. . .

Originally Posted by Tned

By address it, you mean sign an overpriced free agent that plays like a washed up journeyman?

no!