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    More movement in the QB market...


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    Indy was really the only team that made sense since Reich was his OC back when he was good. Not really surprised there were no other bidders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Indy was really the only team that made sense since Reich was his OC back when he was good. Not really surprised there were no other bidders.
    I am very interested to see how he does. He looked mentally and physically broken last year. But this seems to be about as good of a situation he could have hoped for.

    Indy has an underrated defense - if they can get solid QB play they will be a contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    I am very interested to see how he does. He looked mentally and physically broken last year. But this seems to be about as good of a situation he could have hoped for.

    Indy has an underrated defense - if they can get solid QB play they will be a contender.
    Yeah this was the perfect landing spot for him. If there's a situation that can revive his career it's this one. Also, I predict Philly will be back in the QB market within a year or two. I don't think Hurts is the answer for them either. What a gut punch for Philly fans (not that I feel to bad for them since they still got a title) to have a guy you draft play at an MVP level in his second season and you think you're set for the next decade plus then he gets hurt, completely loses his confidence, and becomes a malcontent. I can't think of a QB that's had that career trajectory with a team.

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    Philly let him go for peanuts, they didnt even care they just wanted him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Yeah this was the perfect landing spot for him. If there's a situation that can revive his career it's this one. Also, I predict Philly will be back in the QB market within a year or two. I don't think Hurts is the answer for them either. What a gut punch for Philly fans (not that I feel to bad for them since they still got a title) to have a guy you draft play at an MVP level in his second season and you think you're set for the next decade plus then he gets hurt, completely loses his confidence, and becomes a malcontent. I can't think of a QB that's had that career trajectory with a team.
    Yeah I'm not sold on Hurts being more than average.

    RGIII is about the closest comparison I can think of - wins ROY, looks like an absolute revelation -- then hurts his knee and is never the same again. Way to go, Mike Shanahan.

    On a related note - Washington drafted both RGIII and Kirk Cousins in the same draft. Not enough teams have the balls to be bold in drafting QBs like that. I think you should see more of that approach for QB-starved teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Philly let him go for peanuts, they didnt even care they just wanted him out.
    That contract they gave him looks like a massive mistake in retrospect:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Philly let him go for peanuts, they didnt even care they just wanted him out.
    His contract was basically untradeable. No one was gonna pay premium draft picks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Yeah this was the perfect landing spot for him. If there's a situation that can revive his career it's this one. Also, I predict Philly will be back in the QB market within a year or two. I don't think Hurts is the answer for them either. What a gut punch for Philly fans (not that I feel to bad for them since they still got a title) to have a guy you draft play at an MVP level in his second season and you think you're set for the next decade plus then he gets hurt, completely loses his confidence, and becomes a malcontent. I can't think of a QB that's had that career trajectory with a team.
    Im right there with you. I think Indy will be a great fit for him. They have a great Oline and that is his biggest weakness in Philly IMO. They also have some good pieces on offense.

    I do not think much of Hurtz at all
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    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

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    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Away he Wentz.
    I miss the old Mile High Stadium.

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    Some interesting details here -- sounds like Wentz is a bit of a baby, and doesn't take criticism or coaching very well. Also sounds like the concerns about his accuracy started in camp - and their coaching staff was a bit of a shit show & didn't do him any favors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    That contract they gave him looks like a massive mistake in retrospect:

    Maybe you can help me understand this.

    Why when a team trades a player do they still get hit with a cap hit for the player they trade? That seems over-complicated to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    Maybe you can help me understand this.

    Why when a team trades a player do they still get hit with a cap hit for the player they trade? That seems over-complicated to me.
    It's because the NFL allows teams to prorate bonuses over multiple years on the cap - so if you signed a $10 million signing bonus, the team would only have to count $2 million of that towards this year's cap and the remaining $8 million could get spread out across future years. But if you cut or trade a player, then all of that guaranteed bonus money becomes immediately due against the cap. So Wentz had $33 million in bonus money remaining, and they can no longer spread it across the remaining years of his contract.

    In other words, Wentz already got the money, now they have to record it against their cap in one lump sum instead of spreading it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    It's because the NFL allows teams to prorate bonuses over multiple years on the cap - so if you signed a $10 million signing bonus, the team would only have to count $2 million of that towards this year's cap and the remaining $8 million could get spread out across future years. But if you cut or trade a player, then all of that guaranteed bonus money becomes immediately due against the cap. So Wentz had $33 million in bonus money remaining, and they can no longer spread it across the remaining years of his contract.

    In other words, Wentz already got the money, now they have to record it against their cap in one lump sum instead of spreading it out.
    Oh ok. That makes more sense then. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Helps me also better understand the advantages of front-loading and back-loading contracts as well. The whole salary cap thing and how contracts are done has never really registered with me.
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