Thread: Report: Broncos not planning to pick up Von's option, making him unrestricted free agent

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

Excuses. Like I said he’s a good quarterback and that’s it. Not elite and not a game changing will to victory type of guy.

No, not excuses. If you were more familiar with me and my positions, I object to assuming that QBs are the reason that teams win or lose. I reject the notion that Tebow won 6 games in a row for us when he played like garbage for the 1st 58 minutes in all but 1 of those games, while our D played outstanding football of opening KO to final gun to keep the score close enough to make "Tebowtime" possible. So, not only do I not let QBs steal credit from Ds for wins that the Ds deserve the credit for, but I also don't blame QBs for loses in which their Ds failed them.

Of course, whenever I do, people claim they never said. Except you just did.

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

No, not excuses. If you were more familiar with me and my positions, I object to assuming that QBs are the reason that teams win or lose. I reject the notion that Tebow won 6 games in a row for us when he played like garbage for the 1st 58 minutes in all but 1 of those games, while our D played outstanding football of opening KO to final gun to keep the score close enough to make "Tebowtime" possible. So, not only do I not let QBs steal credit from Ds for wins that the Ds deserve the credit for, but I also don't blame QBs for loses in which their Ds failed them.

Of course, whenever I do, people claim they never said. Except you just did.

There are a lot of people who claim till this day that Tebow inspired the defense to play as dominant as they did right?

But anyhow we’ll agree to disagree. I just know that Watson and Prescott BOTH only started putting up numbers under after they were down 25 points.

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

There are a lot of people who claim till this day that Tebow inspired the defense to play as dominant as they did right?

But anyhow we’ll agree to disagree. I just know that Watson and Prescott BOTH only started putting up numbers under after they were down 25 points.

Dude just stop....please.....Your credibility is plummeting with takes like this.....

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Dude just stop....please.....Your credibility is plummeting with takes like this.....

what credibility?

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

There are a lot of people who claim till this day that Tebow inspired the defense to play as dominant as they did right?

But anyhow we’ll agree to disagree. I just know that Watson and Prescott BOTH only started putting up numbers under after they were down 25 points.

Tebow's ability to make plays in the run game did help the defense out immensely. Instead of going 3 and out punting with 3 incompletions, the Broncos ran the ball 3 times and occasionally converted, increasing time of possession and giving the defense more opportunities to rest throughout the course of the game. So absolutely, there was a link between Tebow's insertion as a starter and the success of the 2011 Denver defense. Not to mention, did anyone on the team, coaching staff, or even in the stands really think Kyle Orton was going to ever lead a game winning drive if they got the ball back for him?

JJ Watt's new deal with the Cardinals (2 years, $31 million, $23 million guaranteed ) sets the market for Von. If JJ can still get $15.5 million a year, no way we let Von walk.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

JJ Watt's new deal with the Cardinals (2 years, $31 million, $23 million guaranteed ) sets the market for Von. If JJ can still get $15.5 million a year, no way we let Von walk.

Especially when you factor in that Watt hasn't complete a full season in the last two/three years.

Originally Posted by elsid13

Especially when you factor in that Watt hasn't complete a full season in the last two/three years.

He played in all of the Texans' games last year.

Tebow sucked.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Tebow sucked.

For 3 quarters every game yeah.

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- With a decision about Von Miller's future looming, Denver Broncos general manager George Paton said Thursday that the team wants the linebacker back for 2021 but is waiting to hear more on potential legal issues Miller might have and did not rule out a discussion about a pay cut for him to return.

"We're still working through it with Von, his agent, and in regards to the legal process, we're just going to let the legal process play out," Paton said. "But obviously it's a serious situation, but we want to let it play out before we comment on that."

Miller, an eight-time Pro Bowl selection and the Super Bowl 50 MVP, has an option clause in his contract that if the Broncos pick up would guarantee $7 million of Miller's $17.5 million base salary and engage the final year of a six-year, $114.5 million deal he signed in 2016.

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Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

For 3 quarters every game yeah.

No, he just plain sucked.

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

You really want to know?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Yes.

A guy that has the goods to be right there on Watson level come next year. And we keep all the got damn draft picks to keep adding on lethal weapons.

Starting from week 11 showed that he was turning the corner. Once shurmer stopped forcing what the hell HE wants to do and started molding the offense around the talent he has. Which is what a competent OC is suppose to do.

Originally Posted by Jeudy10Hamler13

Once shurmer stopped forcing what the hell HE wants to do and started molding the offense around the talent he has.

I must've missed that part.