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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Thx.

    I feel like I could hit it out of the park with better data. Maybe start a consulting side hustle. Maybe I will...

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    You really need to get on clubhouse hawg.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    You really need to get on clubhouse hawg.
    I don't understand the appeal of clubhouse. Why tf would I want to have voice chats withb complete randos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I don't understand the appeal of clubhouse. Why tf would I want to have voice chats withb complete randos?

    If you think its the audio version of this forum then that is why you do not understand the appeal.


    For someone that is a business person or waning to be, etc. It is changing the world. I have a deal in place with tyrese gibson (dude from fast and furious), I had a conversation with paris hilton- we did not colab on anything but the door is now open. Les brown, tony robbins, grant cardone people pay thousands to be a part of their masterminds. Ive been a part of them for free. I have signed a deal with Barry Osborne Matrix and Lord of RIngs- 20 mil.- no I am not going to be in the film. No I did not make 20 mil. I have about 50 new leads every day. I have been on it for 5 weeks now- 1 week I was in Jamaica and I have 2k followers. That is a lot. That is good and easy to monetize. So on and so forth. Rachel Starr is a porn star- she follows me because I gave her great advise and I will be selling her and hopefully her peeps on things when Covid goes away. I just got back from Vegas 3 days ago closing a deal with some heavy hitters.

    SR knows not what he speaks- Clubhouse is the single biggest game changer- ever. Without a doubt. Hands down. If you work for someone else or something then it may not be for you. If you like learning or improving yourself then it may be. I cannot tell you how much free stuff I have gotten from it too. People sending me Shirts, masks, handle of rum and some fireball, these things on the back of phones, food. So on and so forth.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    And the entire premise is the same for all offensive skill positions. WR, TE, RB- and IMO moreso QB. QBs are the ones that should not turn the ball over ever!
    QB fumble rate is worth a lot of investigation. Like you say, they are all important.

    One thing that makes a RB fumble a bit more of a sore spot is the idea that a running play is a game-control play. You are ok with no gain. You are pissed about a TFL but oh well. You expect to keep the chains moving. And the clock. You da boss. It's a close game, or it's a game you are winning by 10 points. Just need to salt it away.

    Get mah drift? You tend to have a high running play % when the game is within a score or so. Or when well ahead. You trust your defense, just want to keep on keepin on.

    Remember Kub in '16? Those games were close, like in '15. Dude just wanted to keep shit close, keep the score close.

    He did.

    But when the team got behind, damn if it didn't all fall apart--the pass rush became way less valuable, it forced a weaker QB to push for a win, etc.

    So in that context, when the game is close in the 2d quarter and you have a RB fumble (that is lost as often recovered)...that might be the straw to break the back. (but hey, like you say, same can be said for a QB sack/fumble and WR fumble...fumble is fumble..just that you especially expect the RB in that sitch to keep the rock...and damn if a lot of these games are decided by 7 points or less)

    ....

    (food for thought)

    ...

    Ultimately, you'd like to have a conversion chart that tells you that a RB fumble-per-touch is worth -X._ yards-per-touch. Then you compare RB1 with 5.0 ypc and RB2 with 4.0 ypc and conclude that RB2 is the better back. That's my hunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Thx.

    I feel like I could hit it out of the park with better data. Maybe start a consulting side hustle. Maybe I will...

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    or give pro football focus or pro football outsiders a call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    If you think its the audio version of this forum then that is why you do not understand the appeal.


    For someone that is a business person or waning to be, etc. It is changing the world. I have a deal in place with tyrese gibson (dude from fast and furious), I had a conversation with paris hilton- we did not colab on anything but the door is now open. Les brown, tony robbins, grant cardone people pay thousands to be a part of their masterminds. Ive been a part of them for free. I have signed a deal with Barry Osborne Matrix and Lord of RIngs- 20 mil.- no I am not going to be in the film. No I did not make 20 mil. I have about 50 new leads every day. I have been on it for 5 weeks now- 1 week I was in Jamaica and I have 2k followers. That is a lot. That is good and easy to monetize. So on and so forth. Rachel Starr is a porn star- she follows me because I gave her great advise and I will be selling her and hopefully her peeps on things when Covid goes away. I just got back from Vegas 3 days ago closing a deal with some heavy hitters.

    SR knows not what he speaks- Clubhouse is the single biggest game changer- ever. Without a doubt. Hands down. If you work for someone else or something then it may not be for you. If you like learning or improving yourself then it may be. I cannot tell you how much free stuff I have gotten from it too. People sending me Shirts, masks, handle of rum and some fireball, these things on the back of phones, food. So on and so forth.
    I guess that seems cool for your line of work. Probably just a matter of time before trolls ruin/overrun it like with the rest of social media though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    I guess that seems cool for your line of work. Probably just a matter of time before trolls ruin/overrun it like with the rest of social media though.
    They try. They get an automatic ban and the person who invited them gets an automatic ban too. They get sorted quickly. I had a convo with 5 billionaires last night. Five. Billion w a B!

    I dont care what line of work someone is in, thats a cool thing, a lot to be learned. No where else have I been able to chat with billionaire and ask them and learn from them and get the time of day even.
     
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    Geeks rule!
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Chidobe Awuzie CB, Leonard Williams DE, Takk McKinley OLB, David Irving DE, Michael Davis CB.

    Shaun Wade CB. Kary Vincent CB. Micah Parsons ILB. Dylan Moses ILB. Jayson Oweh OLB. Trey Smith G/T. Pooka Williams RB. Alex Leatherwood LT. Caleb Farley CB. Jackson Carmen T/G. Kylin Hill RB. Joseph Ossai OLB. Cameron McGrone ILB. Trill Williams CB. TJ Vasher WR. Jaelan Phillips EDGE. Javonte Williams RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Geeks rule!
    Especially PFF amirite?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    This didn't help either!

    This is a RB’s version of the Buttfumble.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Chidobe Awuzie CB, Leonard Williams DE, Takk McKinley OLB, David Irving DE, Michael Davis CB.

    Shaun Wade CB. Kary Vincent CB. Micah Parsons ILB. Dylan Moses ILB. Jayson Oweh OLB. Trey Smith G/T. Pooka Williams RB. Alex Leatherwood LT. Caleb Farley CB. Jackson Carmen T/G. Kylin Hill RB. Joseph Ossai OLB. Cameron McGrone ILB. Trill Williams CB. TJ Vasher WR. Jaelan Phillips EDGE. Javonte Williams RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Do I need to make a strong case that ball security is the most vital attribute of a modern running back? Or are we already there. I can't read y'all's mind. MO? Jaded?

    I'm not even sure I'm right.

    Talk to me.
    You’re wrong.

    This opinion is all theoretical, of course, but I believe my math is sound.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Chidobe Awuzie CB, Leonard Williams DE, Takk McKinley OLB, David Irving DE, Michael Davis CB.

    Shaun Wade CB. Kary Vincent CB. Micah Parsons ILB. Dylan Moses ILB. Jayson Oweh OLB. Trey Smith G/T. Pooka Williams RB. Alex Leatherwood LT. Caleb Farley CB. Jackson Carmen T/G. Kylin Hill RB. Joseph Ossai OLB. Cameron McGrone ILB. Trill Williams CB. TJ Vasher WR. Jaelan Phillips EDGE. Javonte Williams RB.

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