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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Because he was clearly our best DL this year?
    Is he? Your best DL should be better at sacking QB’s than he is at passes defended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I seriously predicted this.

    “Cut Von, we have Malik Reed”

    Bold Strategy, Cotton.
    That's not what I said, at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    That's not what I said, at all.
    Are you in favor of cutting Von? I believe that’s your stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    My point is that, at this point, he is a luxury more than a necessity where in the past he was a necessity.

    In 2019 WITH Von Miller, Denver finished the season with 40 sacks and were 18th in the league.
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    And Malik Reed.
    :cough:
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    If Reed is so great trade up to the Bears for Two 1st round picks, he’s a luxury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Is he? Your best DL should be better at sacking QB’s than he is at passes defended.
    His primary value is as a 300 pound run stuffer - which he does well. His production against the pass has been a bonus. I'm not saying break the bank - but I'm saying he's outperformed expectations for a few years in a row now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Are you in favor of cutting Von? I believe that’s your stance.
    I never advocated for or against cutting Von.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    I never advocated for or against cutting Von.
    I didn’t say you’re happy about it but you did advocate moving on from Von.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Because he was clearly our best DL this year?
    His bat downs are legendary! Love Harris.

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    Not advocating for losing Von, but emotion should never run a franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    Not advocating for losing Von, but emotion should never run a franchise.
    i don't wanna lose him, either-- but that cap number needs to come down. . . can't have a 32-year-old who has like 9 sacks the past two seasons counting 20 million against your cap. . . not in a year where there are a glut of available edge rushers headed to the market. . . that math doesn't work. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    i don't wanna lose him, either-- but that cap number needs to come down. . . can't have a 32-year-old who has like 9 sacks the past two seasons counting 20 million against your cap. . . not in a year where there are a glut of available edge rushers headed to the market. . . that math doesn't work. . .
    He didn't even play last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    He didn't even play last year.
    that's kind of the point. . . he wasn't worth 20 million in '19, and missed all of '20. . . it's been years since he played at the 1st team all pro level that you should be getting for that kind of scratch. . . do you think he can get back to that level at his age, coming off an injury, in a defense that doesn't necessarily plays to his strengths all the time? if not, his cap number isn't favorable. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    i don't wanna lose him, either-- but that cap number needs to come down. . . can't have a 32-year-old who has like 9 sacks the past two seasons counting 20 million against your cap. . . not in a year where there are a glut of available edge rushers headed to the market. . . that math doesn't work. . .
    Yea, unless Von wants to restructure a team friendly deal he has to be an option if a trade comes up or release. Hope we can find a way to keep him and have him retire a Bronco but i knew his contract would end up becoming a thorn in our side at some point.

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    Default Ian Rapoport praises George Paton, previews Von Miller contract on Locked On Broncos

    Ian Rapoport hopped on the latest episode of the Locked On Broncos podcast with analyst Cody Roark to preview the Broncos’ impending off-season.

    During the interview, Rapoport opened by talking about the decision the Broncos will have to make on Von Miller’s upcoming contract option.

    “Von Miller has a team option that now, they need to figure out and see if they’re gonna pick it up, if they’re gonna do a new contract, if they’re going to work on things,” Rapoport said. “Like what are they actually going to do? I know he wants to be back, I know they would want him back. I just think they would like to figure this out somehow.”

    That bodes very well for Broncos Country as it seems Miller should remain a ‘Bronco for life.’
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