Thread: Here you go MO, it's public now.

Originally Posted by Tned

Let me know when I call you a ******* idiot, tell you that you jerk off to a Biden speech, call you an alcoholic, or anything else that actually violates a rule. Or, maybe being compared to racists from the 60s that fight desegregation.

Considering the decade of real personal attacks launched at me, and allowed, Sorry if I don't have much sympathy about you feeling describing your actions as hypocritical is a "personal attack."

Like I said, I welcome one set of rules for ALL and am willing to suffer the consequences if I violate a rule, but then expect the shit like I listed above to finally be dealt with.

No more bullshit of letting MO, TJR and others to post the nastiest stuff, and get away with it because taking action would be seen as "protecting T."

That's the total lunacy of this multi year crusade of MO's and a few others. It's why MO and some others refused to ever agree to clean up P&R, because they prefer to use me as an excuse for their own behavior.

So, let's do it. Same rules for all. I've been begging for that for years.

Poor you.

Originally Posted by Tned

Shoot all reporters and let God sort them out???

Unmoderated, of course. Sorry you got called an idiot. So nasty.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Poor you.



Unmoderated, of course. Sorry you got called an idiot. So nasty.

Ok, just to be clear, you know it was a joke and you know it wasn't aimed at you, so why exactly do you think it should have been moderated?

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I’m not claiming it was aimed at me. That said, I know it was a “joke.” I know the context. But it’s not funny. Joking about shooting all reporters is not funny, I find shit like that to be quite serious. Which is why, as big of an ******* as I can be, I don’t make jokes like that. So while we’ve got TJR and Buff on blast, we need to be fair here. The decorum of this board only ever gets brought up when the right gets pissed off at the left, never the other way around. And posts like Tned’s post there, not just specifically his (but he is a large part of the problem) are why there is no decorum or respect around here.

So, to be clear, you think it's ok to call other posters ******* idiots, ******* morons and all kinds of other personal attacks, but a joke, not aimed at you or anyone else on this forum is the problem?

Originally Posted by Tned

Ok, just to be clear, you know it was a joke and you know it wasn't aimed at you, so why exactly do you think it should have been moderated?



So, to be clear, you think it's ok to call other posters ******* idiots, ******* morons and all kinds of other personal attacks, but a joke, not aimed at you or anyone else on this forum is the problem?

I don’t find “joking” about shooting me very funny, mother******.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I don’t find “joking” about shooting me very funny, mother******.

So, were you lying when you said it wasn't aimed at you, or are you now?

Again, with personal attacks - mother******, really? Even in a thread started after you threatened Davii if he didn't do something about me, YOU are launching personal attacks.

Originally Posted by Tned

So, were you lying when you said it wasn't aimed at you, or are you now?

Again, with personal attacks - mother******, really? Even in a thread started after you threatened Davii if he didn't do something about me, YOU are launching personal attacks.

Since you can’t even fathom an ounce of contrition should tell everyone everything we should know.

I have offered apology after apology, and acknowledged I am the problem. This narcissistic piece of shit can’t even pretend to apologize for “joking” about shooting everyone in my profession, but wants his because he got called an idiot.

Do with me what you will, mods.

OK, MO, olive branch. I never in my wildest dreams thought that you would either get angry or, over the course of many months and two town hall threads, be going on and on about a one liner, tongue in cheek quip, which you fully admit was a joke and not aimed at you. While this doesn't excuse your latest mothef****** rules violation, I'm sorry the joke upset you.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Since you can’t even fathom an ounce of contrition should tell everyone everything we should know.

I have offered apology after apology, and acknowledged I am the problem. This narcissistic piece of shit can’t even pretend to apologize for “joking” about shooting everyone in my profession, but wants his because he got called an idiot.

Do with me what you will, mods.

Ironically, I was posting an apology, even though you and I both know it wasn't aimed at you, and no sooner than I hit submit post, I see another personal attack. Piece of shit, really?

Is there any other poster that can get away with blatant, profane attack after attack with no consequences?

Look at his mod threatening report and the post of mine he flipped out about in that report, compared to the personal attacks just launched in this thread.

MO, I think it's time to take a deep breath and chill out and back away from the keyboard.

Since you knew it was a joke and not aimed at you, why didn't you just pm me and say, "hey, I know you meant it as a joke, but I don't find it funny and wish you wouldn't make jokes like that about reporters."

Yeah, I mean, I can’t believe I didn’t reach out and try to talk after you wanted to shoot everyone in my profession and you spent years telling me I’m morally bankrupt. Unfathomable.

You’re a dumb mother******, dude.

Good lord, this isn't ALL at Mo's feet. So let's just stop that charade. Chances are if you (and I) post in P&R, at some point we've gone over the top. Quit with the finger pointed at others and look within, do better.

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Yeah, I mean, I can’t believe I didn’t reach out and try to talk after you wanted to shoot everyone in my profession and you spent years telling me I’m morally bankrupt. Unfathomable.

You’re a dumb mother******, dude.

There is unhinged and then there is UNHINGED. Good lord

Holy shit.

As much as I enjoy P&R, I am with Davii on this one. It's embarrassing to see grown adults act so petulantly. I've tried my best to be civil and professional in P&R, despite drastically disagreeing with so many there. I've had choice words for a couple of people, but I don't feel like I went out of my way and that those words were deserved. I think the majority of us in P&R have more that we agree on than not. Politics are a heated topic that people are emotionally invested in, but if people can ever figure out how to compartmentalize the emotion and just have candid, respectful conversations with each other it'll go a lot farther than not. There are only a couple of people in P&R that are incapable of this IMO. Getting rid of P&R doesn't need to happen, but people should be held accountable for the words they type.

Originally Posted by Tned

OK, MO, olive branch. I never in my wildest dreams thought that you would either get angry or, over the course of many months and two town hall threads, be going on and on about a one liner, tongue in cheek quip, which you fully admit was a joke and not aimed at you. While this doesn't excuse your latest mothef****** rules violation, I'm sorry the joke upset you.

Okay, I guess it's time for me to get in junior high teacher conflict resolution mode for a bit:





Obviously Tned's comment offends MO because it's his profession. If somebody said we should murder all the teachers, I would probably be upset too, especially if we were discussing something with a lot of tension. If anybody made a similar general statement about your profession while you were around, you might be pissed too. It may feel personal. It certainly seems to have felt personal to MO.

If you would not take such a comment offensively, good for you. Some people have a higher tolerance for that sort of a thing. That's okay. It's also okay for people to have a lower tolerance for such a thing, especially in the heat of the moment.

MO has posted a few times in this thread apologizing. They were good apologies, not sarcastic or "i'm sorry you were offended by my non-offensive post" fake apologies. If you are genuinely sorry and genuinely want to not have this beef with MO and commit to being a more respectful poster, you can make an actual apology. If you don't feel like you have anything to apologize for, that's also fine. In that case, maybe you and MO should agree to not speak to each other if you can't agree to treat each other respectfully.

Bottom line: If a person wants you to stop calling them something, or stop saying something about them, it should be common decency to listen to them and change. If MO doesn't want you to call him deranged, or say that everybody in his profession deserves to be murdered, maybe you should stop. If you don't want MO to call you a ******* idiot or TJR to call you a three-sheets-to-the-wind wino (I have done this too, and for that I am sorry), they should also stop. To one person something you say might be just a silly throwaway joke, and to another person it might be more personally offensive. If you're not willing to be respectful of the people you're talking to by changing some of the words you use to talk to them, maybe you should stop talking to them altogether. This goes for many people, including myself, not just you.

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