Thread: Fire Roger Goodell

Ive been saying this for years.

Imagine getting a majority of the country to resent the most popular pro sports league... What an absolute clown.

I do get Jaded's argument that the Broncos brought this on themselves, but the league still should not have let that abomination of a game happen. The NFL is supposed to be a competitive entertainment product. What they allowed to be put on the field was neither competitive nor entertaining.

By all means punish the Broncos. Fine the hell out of them, strip draft picks, come down harder on them than any other team so far to make an example.

But it wasn't fair to the NFC that the saints got a free win, it wasn't fair to a guy like Lindsay who got injured because of how much slack he had to pick up with us not having a QB, it definitely wasn't fair to that poor Hinton kid, and it wasn't fair to any fan who tuned in wanting to watch a legitimate football game.

It's obvious the league wanted to make an example of us, and that's not necessarily undeserved, but what they did was just over the top and was a complete embarrassment to the league. Every football show I listen to is furious that the league let that game happen, so this isn't just Broncos fans being pissy.

If they really wanted to come down hard and make an example, just make us forfeit the game. It's still not fair to the NFC teams, but at least the players wouldn't have had to put their health/careers on the line to play that charade of a game.

So, teams that follow league protocols yet still have an "outbreak" get the benefit of having games postponed due to player unavailability. But the Broncos have one guy test positive (with zero information on symptoms or actual illness) and because some protocols were not followed (I can only assume no masks/distancing in the QB room) get 3 additional players placed on 5-day quarantine despite negative tests and are forced to play a game anyway.

Does anyone else see the contradiction here? Follow protocols that are clearly not effective because you suffered an actual outbreak and get flexibility, but don't follow those clearly ineffective protocols and get punished even though you suffered no outbreak...

What a stunner! It's almost like this whole thing was a farce to make an example of us.

My understanding is that the QB’s we’re on the practice field on Saturday with the rest of the team and then were told to leave. So by virtue of being around everyone else, they were potentially exposing everyone else. But the league saw no reason to postpone the game a day or two to ensure there wasn’t any spread. The decision to move games just seems completely arbitrary.

Originally Posted by Bronco4ever

My understanding is that the QB’s we’re on the practice field on Saturday with the rest of the team and then were told to leave. So by virtue of being around everyone else, they were potentially exposing everyone else. But the league saw no reason to postpone the game a day or two to ensure there wasn’t any spread. The decision to move games just seems completely arbitrary.

Outside during positional drills. League protocol doesn’t dictate the entire team quarantine after that. It does dictate quarantining after a player in a position group that was in an indoor meeting with lax protocol quarantine and go on the five day COVID list. Three days later, and now four, with no other positive tests, it’s clear there wasn’t an outbreak. There was an outbreak in Tennessee. There was an outbreak in New England. There is an outbreak in Baltimore. There is not an outbreak in Denver. The same thing happened to Las Vegas with a position group. The situations are different. I know it feels like the league is trying to screw Denver, here, but they’re really not. The positional coach, and the lack of foresight from Fangio to not isolate at least one practice squad quarterback is what screwed Denver.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Outside during positional drills. League protocol doesn’t dictate the entire team quarantine after that. It does dictate quarantining after a player in a position group that was in an indoor meeting with lax protocol quarantine and go on the five day COVID list. Three days later, and now four, with no other positive tests, it’s clear there wasn’t an outbreak. There was an outbreak in Tennessee. There was an outbreak in New England. There is an outbreak in Baltimore. There is not an outbreak in Denver. The same thing happened to Las Vegas with a position group. The situations are different. I know it feels like the league is trying to screw Denver, here, but they’re really not. The positional coach, and the lack of foresight from Fangio to not isolate at least one practice squad quarterback is what screwed Denver.

Not being a d!ck, but what other teams are doing this? It certainly hasn't been reported on, that I can tell.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Not being a d!ck, but what other teams are doing this? It certainly hasn't been reported on, that I can tell.

It's definitely been reported that other teams are doing that this year.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Not being a d!ck, but what other teams are doing this? It certainly hasn't been reported on, that I can tell.

No, I think it’s a valid question, because I haven’t seen it reported, but I just assumed they’d be smart enough to do that with the most important position on the field. I guess I was wrong, and I would now assume most teams aren’t doing that and I think this proves they should.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

It's definitely been reported that other teams are doing that this year.

Cincinnati did it during training camp and other teams pondered keeping QBs separate from the rest of the team (LV, GB, and Det) as reported by ESPN in August. Couldn't find any other reports that teams are keeping a "survivor" QB during the season.

Originally Posted by LawDog

Cincinnati did it during training camp and other teams pondered keeping QBs separate from the rest of the team (LV, GB, and Det) as reported by ESPN in August. Couldn't find any other reports that teams are keeping a "survivor" QB during the season.

I’m just a dude sitting on a couch sipping a cold one, i.e. hindsight is 20/20, but why would you not have a PS quarterback isolating just in case?

He runs through drills with the same coach every day, both tested, both masked. He goes home and participates with everything else, including workouts, remotely.

The one problem here, and I didn’t think of this until just now, is how do you get a fourth string guy making league minimum (what do practice squad players make?) buy in to isolating? What’s his motivation to have his family isolate with him, limit outside interaction, etc.

It’s a conundrum, but I’m surprised this wasn’t commonplace.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I’m just a dude sitting on a couch sipping a cold one, i.e. hindsight is 20/20, but why would you not have a PS quarterback isolating just in case?

He runs through drills with the same coach every day, both tested, both masked. He goes home and participates with everything else, including workouts, remotely.

The one problem here, and I didn’t think of this until just now, is how do you get a fourth string guy making league minimum (what do practice squad players make?) buy in to isolating? What’s his motivation to have his family isolate with him, limit outside interaction, etc.

It’s a conundrum, but I’m surprised this wasn’t commonplace.

It seems like the kind of foresight a 2B+ enterprise would have.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I’m just a dude sitting on a couch sipping a cold one, i.e. hindsight is 20/20, but why would you not have a PS quarterback isolating just in case?

He runs through drills with the same coach every day, both tested, both masked. He goes home and participates with everything else, including workouts, remotely.

The one problem here, and I didn’t think of this until just now, is how do you get a fourth string guy making league minimum (what do practice squad players make?) buy in to isolating? What’s his motivation to have his family isolate with him, limit outside interaction, etc.

It’s a conundrum, but I’m surprised this wasn’t commonplace.

If they follow protocol, masks, tracing, etc. What does it do for you?

We would've had our QBs available regardless of an emergency QB or not had there not been protocol violations