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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Scoring TD’s, blocking, receiving, running the ball ... ya know ... basic RB thangs.
    2020 was a solid year for basic thangs, seasons, weather, passage of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Scoring TD’s, blocking, receiving, running the ball ... ya know ... basic RB thangs.
    lindsay is clearly the better runner, and it's not close. . .

    gordon - 82 carries, 349 yards (4.3 YPC), 3 fumbles

    lindsay - 39 carries, 204 yards (5.3 YPC), 0 fumbles

    those numbers accurately mirror their career YPC numbers, so they're not a mirage-- lindsay is a full yard per carry better, always has been-- and he has zero career fumbles, compared to 17 (!!) for gordon. . . turnovers matter in this league-- a lot. . . those are gamechanging plays. . . also, lindsay scored 16 rushing TDs his first two years in the league-- he is quite productive in that regard in his own right. . . but sure, gordon is going to get most of the TDs if he's given all of the goal line work. . . that's fine-- doesn't mean lindsay can't do it, though. . . he's plenty effective between the tackles, with his vision and short area burst. . . gordon IS the better blocker, i'll give you that. . . but factor in turnovers, plus how much they're getting paid, and phil is VASTLY more productive, dollar for dollar and pound for pound. . . gordon is an overpaid hack, who should carry lindsay's pads after practice until he learns to hold onto the effin' football. . .

    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    The Broncos don’t even emphasize the same run plays for both RB’s, you guys are looking at this as though it’s Lindsay OR MGIII. They emphasize inside zone with MGIII and attack the edge of the defense with Lindsay, that’s why they signed MGIII, they’re playing to each RB’s strengths.

    This is why MGIII is the better RB; Lindsay is apparently better at attacking the edge of the defense, MGIII is better at everything else.

    As usual, stats lack context, even your sweet sweet PFF .
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    Sign Garbage Minshew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    The Broncos don’t even emphasize the same run plays for both RB’s, you guys are looking at this as though it’s Lindsay OR MGIII. They emphasize inside zone with MGIII and attack the edge of the defense with Lindsay, that’s why they signed MGIII, they’re playing to each RB’s strengths.

    This is why MGIII is the better RB; Lindsay is apparently better at attacking the edge of the defense, MGIII is better at everything else.

    As usual, stats lack context, even your sweet sweet PFF .
    nope. . . a lot of lindsay's best carries over the last two years came on inside zone runs-- he's better than gordon between the tackles and on the edges. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    nope. . . a lot of lindsay's best carries over the last two years came on inside zone runs-- he's better than limos gordon between the tackles and on the edges. . .
    It’s aalmost as if the Broncos disagree.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    It’s aalmost as if the Broncos disagree.
    You're right, Elway has never made a bad FA signing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    You're right, Elway has never made a bad FA signing.
    Elway’s not calling plays.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Lindsey has had four red zone carries this season.

    In his career he’s scored 11 touchdowns on 45 red zone rushing attempts, 24% of his red zone snaps have resulted in a touchdown. Gordon’s career touchdown rate in the red zone is 20%.

    I’m not making any sort of judgment on Lindsey’s red zone success on four carries.

    Then you sallys need to quite cherry picking stats. Now going to career numbers.

    You all keep dodging around TDS This year. I know it totally annihilates everything you are arguing against but why argue? Gordon is scoring TDs for the broncos. The only one. Doing something ALL of you have bitched about this year, and last, and the year before that.

    Here is the story for this year:

    Gordon Fumbles
    Gordon also scores TDs
    Lindsay Runs
    Lindsay does not score TDs
    Lindsay gets hurt


    Also just a fun fact. Gordon has had to run against the titans, Steel and Bucs- Top running defenses. Lindsay got the lowly chefs and pats.
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Then you sallys need to quite cherry picking stats. Now going to career numbers.

    You all keep dodging around TDS This year. I know it totally annihilates everything you are arguing against but why argue? Gordon is scoring TDs for the broncos. The only one. Doing something ALL of you have bitched about this year, and last, and the year before that.

    Here is the story for this year:

    Gordon Fumbles
    Gordon also scores TDs
    Lindsay Runs
    Lindsay does not score TDs
    Lindsay gets hurt


    Also just a fun fact. Gordon has had to run against the titans, Steel and Bucs- Top running defenses. Lindsay got the lowly chefs and pats.
    And before you say it. They both played against the titans and Gordon was the better runner that entire game, up to the point of lindsay being hurt and after. He also scored when lindsay could not.

    And one more thing, if we are arguing how great lindsay is and even have the convo that melvin is there with him then mel must not be all that bad.
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Scoring TD’s, blocking, receiving, running the ball ... ya know ... basic RB thangs.
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    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    “Here’s the picture this season”
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Then you sallys need to quite cherry picking stats. Now going to career numbers.

    You all keep dodging around TDS This year. I know it totally annihilates everything you are arguing against but why argue? Gordon is scoring TDs for the broncos. The only one. Doing something ALL of you have bitched about this year, and last, and the year before that.

    Here is the story for this year:

    Gordon Fumbles
    Gordon also scores TDs
    Lindsay Runs
    Lindsay does not score TDs
    Lindsay gets hurt


    Also just a fun fact. Gordon has had to run against the titans, Steel and Bucs- Top running defenses. Lindsay got the lowly chefs and pats.
    The only person cherry picking anything is you cherry picking four carries in the red zone by Lindsey and trying to make definitive conclusions from a micro (not even a small) sample size.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    The only person cherry picking anything is you cherry picking four carries in the red zone by Lindsey and trying to make definitive conclusions from a micro (not even a small) sample size.

    How many tds does Phil have this year? Cherry pick that
    How many Tds does Melly have this year? Cherry pick those too
    How many attempts does each have this year? Cherry those also


    Then come back to me with a better excuse
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    How many tds does Phil have this year? Cherry pick that
    How many Tds does Melly have this year? Cherry pick those too
    How many attempts does each have this year? Cherry those also


    Then come back to me with a better excuse
    I’m not “cherrying” anything. Lindsay has four FOUR carries in the red zone. You cannot make a definitive judgment of anything on four carries. Doing so — i.e. what you’re doing — is cherry picking. That’s the definition of it. So, I, in order to provide some context to a small sample size, applied their career red zone record to get a fuller picture of their abilities.

    You’re welcome.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    I’m not “cherrying” anything. Lindsay has four FOUR carries in the red zone. You cannot make a definitive judgment of anything on four carries. Doing so — i.e. what you’re doing — is cherry picking. That’s the definition of it. So, I, in order to provide some context to a small sample size, applied their career red zone record to get a fuller picture of their abilities.

    You’re welcome.
    nope.
    you did not answer any of the questions. Try again
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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