Thread: Elway philosophical shift back to run-and-gun Broncos: 'I think we're heading in right direction'

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Hi DMac. Don't you have a radio show to get ready for?

Much easier to quote a hack of a TV "analyst" that seems to personally hate Bolles...and a radio guy that has NO room to talk about limiting penalties.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Much easier to quote a hack of a TV "analyst" that seems to personally hate Bolles...and a radio guy that has NO room to talk about limiting penalties.

Funny thing is, Schlereth warmed up to Bolles toward the end of the season. Recognizing - just like you, and many others - that his play really improved once we had a competent QB that isn't a statue.

Honestly, I'd rather have Bolles hold someone than get the QB killed, but that's just me. Live to play another down.

DMac is a hack with terrible takes, which is why I think Cugel is him.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Funny thing is, Schlereth warmed up to Bolles toward the end of the season. Recognizing - just like you, and many others - that his play really improved once we had a competent QB that isn't a statue.

Honestly, I'd rather have Bolles hold someone than get the QB killed, but that's just me. Live to play another down.

DMac is a hack with terrible takes, which is why I think Cugel is him.

that's why I'm curious when people say Lock won't have time to pass, or he'll get killed as long as Bolles is playing. I say it's hard for a rusher to hit Lock at all when he's laying n the ground underneath Bolles.

Originally Posted by Cugel

These guys who have done it, know. Don't need to say anything more than this.

Maybe QB was the biggest weakness on the team for the past 4 years?

Originally Posted by The Glue Factory

Maybe QB was the biggest weakness on the team for the past 4 years?

QB was a much more horrible position than LT.

Until now.

I hope.

So if starting Lock was the key why are we so eager to pump Bolles up?

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Much easier to quote a hack of a TV "analyst" that seems to personally hate Bolles...and a radio guy that has NO room to talk about limiting penalties.

They’re OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

We should only listen to analysis from people who’ve never played ... as long as they kiss Garett Muñoz’s ass.

Originally Posted by Jaded

They’re OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

We should only listen to analysis from people who’ve never played ... as long as they kiss Garett Muñoz’s ass.

Franklin was pretty bad though bro

Originally Posted by Jaded

They’re OFFENSIVE LINEMEN!

We should only listen to analysis from people who’ve never played ... as long as they kiss Garett Muñoz’s ass.

Schlereth hasn't played the game in 20 years. Hasn't coached or scouted or been on the ground in any capacity since then. Do we pay much attention to Jaworski or Dilfer when they talk about QB's? No. So why does Stink's opinion matter more than any of ours at this point?

Franklin has NO room to talk about OL as it pertains to penalties. Unless of course he is trying to teach them how to do it. 39 penalties and 20 sacks allowed in 90 career games. I'd rather listen to Schlereth.

No one is saying Bolles is "great" by any means. At best, he is average and as an average LT, he's been asked to protect QB's who hold the ball forever like it's their security blanket or have the maneuverability of a sloth in a snow storm. But, when you combine the improvement he showed as the season went on (especially in a small sample size with what appears to be a quality QB), with greater needs at other positions...upgrading him was more of a luxury than a need. And a 7-9 team typically doesn't have room for early round luxuries.

Originally Posted by Jaded

So if starting Lock was the key why are we so eager to pump Bolles up?

Who is pumping up Bolles? I haven't read any posts that say he's the next Gary Zimmerman or Ryan Clady.

I just watched the Lock games from last season (Gamepass is free until the end of May so anyone can, BTW) except the KC abortion and came away with some thoughts.

1) It will be potentially difficult to replace Will Parks. He was kind of our gadget guy on defense and STs. He made a lot of plays that didn’t get a lot of attention but were very important in that 4-1 streak. I don’t know who the next man up is, but I hope we find one.

2) Beck deserves to be on this roster over every TE not named Fant. The dude was a solid lead blocker and made some very crucial 3rd down catches once Lock was the QB. He also plays STs, something the other broken down always hurt stiffs don’t. I hope we keep him, Fant, Albert O and cut the rest of them. Even though Shurmur’s scheme doesn’t use a FB often you still need a lead blocker on goal-line sets.

3) I hope the staff isn’t too hasty replacing Hamilton. In watching those last couple games, the guy was ALWAYS open. Teams doubled Sutton, but Hamilton did his job. Lock targeted him more because he was the open man. On downs he wasn’t targeted, it wasn’t for lack of being open. He also didn’t have any drops during that time. He got a bad rap from that drop in the end zone early in the season and Fucco never looked his way again. I like what I saw from him in those games. I hope we don’t just give the job to Hamler just because. If Hamilton is going to go, I hope he at least gets a fair shot in camp (if there is camp).

4) The majority of the time the right side of the Oline was Schlottman and Rogers during those games and they seemed to do okay. Makes me feel a little better we didn’t reach on Oline.

Originally Posted by The Glue Factory

Maybe QB was the biggest weakness on the team for the past 4 years?

I'm not saying. I'm just saying.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I just watched the Lock games from last season (Gamepass is free until the end of May so anyone can, BTW) except the KC abortion and came away with some thoughts.

1) It will be potentially difficult to replace Will Parks. He was kind of our gadget guy on defense and STs. He made a lot of plays that didn’t get a lot of attention but were very important in that 4-1 streak. I don’t know who the next man up is, but I hope we find one.

2) Beck deserves to be on this roster over every TE not named Fant. The dude was a solid lead blocker and made some very crucial 3rd down catches once Lock was the QB. He also plays STs, something the other broken down always hurt stiffs don’t. I hope we keep him, Fant, Albert O and cut the rest of them. Even though Shurmur’s scheme doesn’t use a FB often you still need a lead blocker on goal-line sets.

3) I hope the staff isn’t too hasty replacing Hamilton. In watching those last couple games, the guy was ALWAYS open. Teams doubled Sutton, but Hamilton did his job. Lock targeted him more because he was the open man. On downs he wasn’t targeted, it wasn’t for lack of being open. He also didn’t have any drops during that time. He got a bad rap from that drop in the end zone early in the season and Fucco never looked his way again. I like what I saw from him in those games. I hope we don’t just give the job to Hamler just because. If Hamilton is going to go, I hope he at least gets a fair shot in camp (if there is camp).

4) The majority of the time the right side of the Oline was Schlottman and Rogers during those games and they seemed to do okay. Makes me feel a little better we didn’t reach on Oline.

Hamilton's calling card has always been his route running...which is why he gets open all the time. I think he'll still have a role on the team because can play slot and outside and that versatility will play out in certain formations and is beneficial in the event of injury. Plus, he wouldn't be a bad guy to have around to help Hamler.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Hamilton's calling card has always been his route running...which is why he gets open all the time. I think he'll still have a role on the team because can play slot and outside and that versatility will play out in certain formations and is beneficial in the event of injury. Plus, he wouldn't be a bad guy to have around to help Hamler.

3 WR 1 TE 1 RB as base means lots of different looks and requires depth at WR. This draft had Shurmur's prints all over it. Hamilton and Patrick will have huge roles as rotational guys, even when/if Jeudy and Hamler overtake them.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Schlereth hasn't played the game in 20 years. Hasn't coached or scouted or been on the ground in any capacity since then. Do we pay much attention to Jaworski or Dilfer when they talk about QB's? No. So why does Stink's opinion matter more than any of ours at this point?

Franklin has NO room to talk about OL as it pertains to penalties. Unless of course he is trying to teach them how to do it. 39 penalties and 20 sacks allowed in 90 career games. I'd rather listen to Schlereth.

No one is saying Bolles is "great" by any means. At best, he is average and as an average LT, he's been asked to protect QB's who hold the ball forever like it's their security blanket or have the maneuverability of a sloth in a snow storm. But, when you combine the improvement he showed as the season went on (especially in a small sample size with what appears to be a quality QB), with greater needs at other positions...upgrading him was more of a luxury than a need. And a 7-9 team typically doesn't have room for early round luxuries.

Oh but whoever your source is just retired from the NFL last night. This is a lame attack on an analysts credibility.

What difference does it make if Deebo had panelties? Game recognizes game and Deebo knows penalties. Also lame.

As for Bolles, what improvement? Makes zero sense to give Bolles credit for Lock getting the ball out quicker, WHEN (yes, WHEN) Lock doesn’t get the ball out quick enough Bolles is still the same player he’s always been. I have been one of his biggest supporters but that was when I expected him to get better ... he hasn’t, same dude. If the Broncos QB is to blame for Bolles’ penalties why isn’t every Broncos OLmen getting a penalty per game? There’s 4 other OL on every play, yet ... it’s Bolles leading the league in penalties. They’re all getting beat, period, maybe the other OL give up sacks when Bolles takes a penalty ... but they’re all getting beat.

Edit, btw, yes I listen to Dilfer on QB’s.