Thread: Which Broncos draft picks have you been most wrong about?

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Sly is a weird case study. People think he was a bust but was he really? He was productive during our SB year. It wasn't like he was completely terrible.

Syl Wil was one of the top 1st round picks of that Abysmal draft, which isn’t saying much.

Broncos don't get to SB 50 without Brock. Fact.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

I was pretty excited when we drafted Tebow.



He gave us a really fun year though.

Totally. Except for the first 3.75 quarters of every game. But those last few min, he became really fun to watch

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Broncos don't get to SB 50 without Brock. Fact.

Everyone who contributed that year gets a lifetime of appreciation from me. What Brock did that year made his pick 100% worth it.

I really thought Jewell would be somewhat impactful. I thought Roby was gonna be a badass. I thought we got it wrong on Torain and he would go elsewhere and tear it up. I thought Scheffler and Orange Julius were gonna be long term answers at te.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Everyone who contributed that year gets a lifetime of appreciation from me. What Brock did that year made his pick 100% worth it.

Yep. Consider the potential for a franchise Qb in the second round and that pick is actually underrated as hell. We all know Brock wasn't going to Canton, but what he was and turning into in Denver was NOT what that Texans dumpster fire season was...and even then I think he won a playoff game as a starter. Brocks' career is such a rollercoaster of extremely extreme extremes!

Let’s be fair, BOB is a dysfunctional doucher.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Let’s be fair, BOB is a dysfunctional doucher.

He’s the typical Bellicheat assistant turned HC. He is absolutely positive he’s the smartest guy in the room and that he’s never wrong, especially when everyone else is telling him he is. He walked into a team with a lot of talent and has done nothing but sabotage it so far. Supposedly, he didn’t want to draft Deshaun Watson and it became a bone of contention between him and the GM, who he got fired and now runs the whole show. He himself will be fired soon.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

He’s the typical Bellicheat assistant turned HC. He is absolutely positive he’s the smartest guy in the room and that he’s never wrong, especially when everyone else is telling him he is. He walked into a team with a lot of talent and has done nothing but sabotage it so far. Supposedly, he didn’t want to draft Deshaun Watson and it became a bone of contention between him and the GM, who he got fired and now runs the whole show. He himself will be fired soon.

I hope he stays there long enough to trade Watt to Denver for a song.

Jaded is right that he's a complete raging moron.

But, Osweiler was simple. He only played 7 games and they tried to limit his exposure. He had one of the all time NFL great defenses led by two Hall of Fame players in Miller and Demarcus Ware, which limited the 15-1 Panthers offense that scored 500 points that season to 10 points and scored 14 points off turnovers.

So, Osweiler simply looked better than he was. Nobody was prepared for him. Nobody had any tape on him. Scouts hadn't seen him, and they had no idea about his tendencies. Practically no game film. That gave him a temporary advantage.

Plus, they weren't sending him out there to throw it all over the field very much, they were trying to simplify the play book and give him manageable situations by running the ball.

He managed to win 5 out of 7 games with that defense. Next year everybody in Texas expected him to be the man. And he instantly screwed the pooch by screwing up and turning the ball over a lot.

Things went down hill from there, because Osweiler is a hothead too. And two hot heads clashing together is just too volatile. In that situation of conflict between the coach and QB, the coach will probably win.

So, O'Brien stayed, and Osweiler left, and never got a full time starting position in the NFL again and finally retired.

Originally Posted by Cugel

Jaded is right that he's a complete raging moron.

But, Osweiler was simple. He only played 7 games and they tried to limit his exposure. He had one of the all time NFL great defenses led by two Hall of Fame players in Miller and Demarcus Ware, which limited the 15-1 Panthers offense that scored 500 points that season to 10 points and scored 14 points off turnovers.

So, Osweiler simply looked better than he was. Nobody was prepared for him. Nobody had any tape on him. Scouts hadn't seen him, and they had no idea about his tendencies. Practically no game film. That gave him a temporary advantage.

Plus, they weren't sending him out there to throw it all over the field very much, they were trying to simplify the play book and give him manageable situations by running the ball.

He managed to win 5 out of 7 games with that defense. Next year everybody in Texas expected him to be the man. And he instantly screwed the pooch by screwing up and turning the ball over a lot.

Things went down hill from there, because Osweiler is a hothead too. And two hot heads clashing together is just too volatile. In that situation of conflict between the coach and QB, the coach will probably win.

So, O'Brien stayed, and Osweiler left, and never got a full time starting position in the NFL again and finally retired.

What?

I'm sorry, what? Manning, NOT Brock, won games with defense. The only game Manning really looked like himself pre-injury was the Green Bay game. The defense was amazing, don't get me wrong, but you keep continuing this revisionist narrative. There's a reason Houston gave the guy $17.2 million, and Elway was willing to go $15-$16 million a year on him. Brock moved the ball effectively, and landed it in the hands of his 2 Pro Bowl receivers.

Brock's failures in Houston were he got used to how things were done here. Manning got to call all the shots, so when Brock got in the huddle, he was afforded much of the same freedoms so as to not undermine his leadership of the huddle. Manning on the sideline guiding Brock along was huge to that too. He goes to Houston? Bob calls the shots, and Brock basically gets told to shut up. Brock fails to develop chemistry with Hopkins. Houston fails to establish other receiving threats around him. Basically, a complete disaster.

I'm not saying Brock would have been Manning had he stayed here. But, he sure as hell wouldn't have been as bad as Trevor or Paxton. Most likely, a career closer to Jake Plummer's where he wins some games, but teams eventually key in on his weaknesses where the OLine and run game let up. Trevor and Paxton had no strengths from the get-go.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

What?

I'm sorry, what? Manning, NOT Brock, won games with defense. The only game Manning really looked like himself pre-injury was the Green Bay game. The defense was amazing, don't get me wrong, but you keep continuing this revisionist narrative. There's a reason Houston gave the guy $17.2 million, and Elway was willing to go $15-$16 million a year on him. Brock moved the ball effectively, and landed it in the hands of his 2 Pro Bowl receivers.

Brock's failures in Houston were he got used to how things were done here. Manning got to call all the shots, so when Brock got in the huddle, he was afforded much of the same freedoms so as to not undermine his leadership of the huddle. Manning on the sideline guiding Brock along was huge to that too. He goes to Houston? Bob calls the shots, and Brock basically gets told to shut up. Brock fails to develop chemistry with Hopkins. Houston fails to establish other receiving threats around him. Basically, a complete disaster.

I'm not saying Brock would have been Manning had he stayed here. But, he sure as hell wouldn't have been as bad as Trevor or Paxton. Most likely, a career closer to Jake Plummer's where he wins some games, but teams eventually key in on his weaknesses where the OLine and run game let up. Trevor and Paxton had no strengths from the get-go.