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    Wow! I know we were looking at corners but I didn’t expect this

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    solid! he's not chris, but he's a good player, and younger. . . and a 4th isn't overpaying-- giving it up is better than paying byron jones like he's jalen ramsey. . . or giving up a 2nd or more for darius slay. .




    we can now scratch one of our biggest needs off the board prior to FA. . . this is a win. . . O-line and D-line are now the only true imperatives. . . if they want to add another WR, RB, or LB before the draft, they can, but the pressure at those spots isn't so immediate. . .
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    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    solid! he's not chris, but he's a good player, and younger. . . and a 4th isn't overpaying-- giving it up is better than paying byron jones like he's jalen ramsey. . . or giving up a 2nd or more for darius slay. .




    we can now scratch one of our biggest needs off the board prior to FA. . . this is a win. . . O-line and D-line are now the only true imperatives. . . if they want to add another WR, RB, or LB before the draft, they can, but the pressure at those spots isn't so immediate. . .
    You know how I feel about spending money on RBs, so anyone they get better be cheap. With John's ability to blow money on wasted OL free agents maybe it's better just to spend it on the defensive side of the ball.
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    We flipped the 4th we got for Sanders from SF. So that's the 31st pick that round.

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    So they gave up a 4th to pay full market price for 2 years on a CB who just had a pair of fairly average years? Just capping it at a 2-year investment makes some sense - I still expect them to be on a CB early in the draft, but this way that player doesn't have to be aces immediately.

    But still - Bouye struggled to replace Ramsey as their #1. Better find some extra weapons for the No Fly Zone in the draft, or that's a lot of counting on the pass rush regardless of whether Simmons returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    So they gave up a 4th to pay full market price for 2 years on a CB who just had a pair of fairly average years? Just capping it at a 2-year investment makes some sense - I still expect them to be on a CB early in the draft, but this way that player doesn't have to be aces immediately.

    But still - Bouye struggled to replace Ramsey as their #1. Better find some extra weapons for the No Fly Zone in the draft, or that's a lot of counting on the pass rush regardless of whether Simmons returns.
    i sure as hell would hope that denver isn't expecting him to be ramsey. . . either way, it beats the hell out of starting yiadom. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    i sure as hell would hope that denver isn't expecting him to be ramsey. . . either way, it beats the hell out of starting yiadom. . .
    A paper bag with a on it has more of a chance as a starting corner than Yiadom does, it's true.
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    So they gave up a 4th to pay full market price for 2 years on a CB who just had a pair of fairly average years? Just capping it at a 2-year investment makes some sense - I still expect them to be on a CB early in the draft, but this way that player doesn't have to be aces immediately.

    But still - Bouye struggled to replace Ramsey as their #1. Better find some extra weapons for the No Fly Zone in the draft, or that's a lot of counting on the pass rush regardless of whether Simmons returns.
    Chris Harris is mostly a press-corner who never felt comfortable in Vic Fangio's defense. Apparently Chris has wanted out of Denver since the end of the season anyway. Bouye will hopefully be a better fit in Fangio's zone coverage system. He's not as good a lock-down cover corner, but won't be called on to do that as much.

    And Harris liked being able to switch to the slot too, but at his expected price tag he'd have to be top lock-down CB for every #1 WR.

    He struggled at times with that this season.

    I'd be surprised if this leads to any major drop off in the secondary, as long as they keep Justin Simmons -- which Elway has said they intend to do, either by re-signing him or franchise tagging him.

    I'm critical of Elway generally, but not with this move. Sounds like they will get a player who will fit into what Fangio wants to do without breaking the bank. We'll see.

    He's been communicating with Chiefs players who were texting him that "we'd love to have you." So, he could wind up with the Chefs.

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    I love it!
    I was hoping we would go after him if they cut him. But for a 4th? Thats freaking awesome!! We are not going to find a CB as good as him in the 4th. I love this. I still want 2 CBs from FA. So now we just need to spend for another one. BUt I love this move. Well done Elway! I salute the!
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    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

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    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    I love it!
    I was hoping we would go after him if they cut him. But for a 4th? Thats freaking awesome!! We are not going to find a CB as good as him in the 4th. I love this. I still want 2 CBs from FA. So now we just need to spend for another one. BUt I love this move. Well done Elway! I salute the!
    Agreed, not likely to find a plug-and-play CB in the 4th as good as Bouye. It just chews up a chunk of Denver's available FA money. Since they've said they'll Franchise Simmons if they can't come to a deal agreement they are shoring up the defensive backfield with a large percentage of their funds.

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    Probably a commentary on the scarcity at the position as much as anything. Elway offered CHJ 3 years and $36 million -- so $12 million/year -- CHJ wants something more in the $14-15/yr ballpark and it looks like there is a pretty big market for that.

    Bouye will earn $13mil/yr and is younger - so Elway is hoping to get some value here by keeping him on his current deal... The Jaguars were going to release him -- but who knows if he would have been able to get CHJ/Marcus Peters money if he hit the market. I kind of doubt it -- but Elway decided he didn't want to chance it.

    That said, part of me wonders if we're getting too cute and should just pay the extra couple mil for CHJ. Nevertheless, it looks like that decision has been made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Probably a commentary on the scarcity at the position as much as anything. Elway offered CHJ 3 years and $36 million -- so $12 million/year -- CHJ wants something more in the $14-15/yr ballpark and it looks like there is a pretty big market for that.

    Bouye will earn $13mil/yr and is younger - so Elway is hoping to get some value here by keeping him on his current deal... The Jaguars were going to release him -- but who knows if he would have been able to get CHJ/Marcus Peters money if he hit the market. I kind of doubt it -- but Elway decided he didn't want to chance it.

    That said, part of me wonders if we're getting too cute and should just pay the extra couple mil for CHJ. Nevertheless, it looks like that decision has been made.
    its a terrible decision. a few more m for a real corner. Bouye is terrible. Fangio is terrible for thinking he can replace CHJ with this scrub

    total waste of 13m

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    its a terrible decision. a few more m for a real corner. Bouye is terrible. Fangio is terrible for thinking he can replace CHJ with this scrub

    total waste of 13m
    Get the **** out of here.

    I’m definitely down with this move. Sad to know Chris Harris is gone, but Bouye is a very capable corner.
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