We tried, MO.
We tried, MO.
Originally Posted by Sting
No shit.
It could have been beautiful--it still can!!
https://www.talkclassical.com/17996-...commended.html
Originally Posted by Sting
Ok, so our n=small af list is:
1. Elway
2a. Manning
2b. Brady
4. Montana
5a. Marino
5b. Mahomes
woo, hoo.
Originally Posted by Sting
This list sucks!
I hold Hawg personally responsible for this travesty!
No list without Otto Graham on it is legit. The guy dominated in terms of both wins and stats like nobody else, ever. By stats I mean that he was so far beyond his contemporaries that its like he wasn't playing the same game. Even by today's standards his 1953 stats are crazy; 64% completion (maybe 15 points higher than was standard at the time) but a staggering 10.6 YPA as well. This, in an era where DB's could manhandle WR's and pass blocking was a new innovation!
I never got to see him play, obviously, and stats don't tell you everything...but his stats plus his W-L record are remarkable
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...G/GrahOt00.htm
“What fresh hell is this?”
"A man who picks a cat up by the tail learns something which he can learn in no other way." - Mark Twain
I fully endorse this post. My preferred 'old time' QB is Unitas, followed by that gentlemen from the Packers. Graham was a QB god though and is truly the greatest QB ever in regards to winning. I give him that edge over Brady because Graham didn't need a ton of time to become great, and wasn't a cheater. I also give the edge to OG over Montana because Graham was the driving force that made others better, while Montana was a great operator of an offense, he wasn't a great player in his own right.
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