Thread: Who is the greatest Broncos defensive player of all time?

Originally Posted by slim

This is what I remember most about him. He really did have a uncanny ability to fill the hole and smoke some fools on the goal line.

I trust you more than anyone on filling holes and smoking dudes.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I trust you more than anyone on filling holes and smoking dudes.

Don't sleep on Dave!

Present Von Miller
Past Atwater or Mecklenberg

Champ shut down one side of the whole field during his prime, no one did it better.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I think that's who I'd have to pick as well. If Von keeps at am elite level for another few years I think he could surpass him, but Champ was just so completely dominant.

But Von was never at any point the best pass rusher in the league. Champ all day. His 2006 season is the best ever by a corner. So good as to be ridiculous. Thrown at 35 times, allowed 4 yep 4 catches, defended 21 balls, had 10 int, 6 picks inside the 10 and 3 in the endzone. Tossed in 98 tackles for good measure. I love Von Steve and Al meck and Randy but Champ man wow

Champ was everything his name would imply. However, Gradishar played in a different era. Offenses were run oriented and you lived or died off of whether you could stop the run game and force the opposition to pass. From sideline to sideline, if you were a ball carrier you had better be aware of where Gradishar was because he had shed whatever blocker were assigned to him and he was coming in a bad mood. In goal line and short yardage he took over the game. No one did it better.

Originally Posted by Shazam!

Champs peers is Revis and Sherman. Look at their stats and how many more Tackles Champ has as opposed to theirs. He has more than them both combined.

I wish Champ had a Ring!

Sherman got absolutely smoked in this last SB. He gave up 77 yards and a TD and Mahomes had a perfect passer rating against him. That’s now part of his legacy - along with being a real ass his whole career.

He’s is (was?) elite - but I don’t think he’s in Champ / Deion company.

Has to be champ. GOAT at his position. Miller is another HOFer but I don’t think best at his position ever.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

But Von was never at any point the best pass rusher in the league. Champ all day. His 2006 season is the best ever by a corner. So good as to be ridiculous. Thrown at 35 times, allowed 4 yep 4 catches, defended 21 balls, had 10 int, 6 picks inside the 10 and 3 in the endzone. Tossed in 98 tackles for good measure. I love Von Steve and Al meck and Randy but Champ man wow

Say what, say what?

Originally Posted by Jaded

Say what, say what?

Thats just cray-cray.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Say what, say what?

Depending on what metric you use, it's not the most crazy thing to say. He's never led the league in sacks.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Depending on what metric you use, it's not the most crazy thing to say. He's never led the league in sacks.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

Thats just cray-cray.

I love Von and if we want to discuss who was the best all-around strong-side 4-3 linebacker in the league then we can do that. But Von has never had as dominant as season as a pass-rusher as champ did as a cornerback.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

I love Von and if we want to discuss who was the best all-around strong-side 4-3 linebacker in the league then we can do that. But Von has never had as dominant as season as a pass-rusher as champ did as a cornerback.

Just out of curiosity where did you find the info on how many times Champ was thrown at? And does it give a list of every DB who had passes thrown their way? Thats something that hasnt been answered yet in here and i would like to compare it to other DB's that year.

a hof cornerback can only cover someone for so long if there is no pass rush, but a good pass rush can make cornerbacks look better than they are

But good corners can also cause coverage sacks.

Get styled on, feet protector.