Thread: Who is the greatest Broncos defensive player of all time?

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Yeah, I don’t disagree. It’s definitely a debate. I’m relatively sure 2006 is the year the receiver he was guarding was thrown at like 15 times and he had 9 interceptions? Someone back those stats up. That’s insane.

This is what I found:

https://247sports.com/Board/30/Conte...ason-27336734/

Thrown at: 35 times
Completions allowed: 4
Passes defended: 21
Interceptions: 10 (1 TD)
Tackles: 98 (84 solo)

Honestly the 4 catches allowed all season might be the most impressive part of that. That's just stupid good.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

This is what I found:

https://247sports.com/Board/30/Conte...ason-27336734/

Thrown at: 35 times
Completions allowed: 4
Passes defended: 21
Interceptions: 10 (1 TD)
Tackles: 98 (84 solo)

Honestly the 4 catches allowed all season might be the most impressive part of that. That's just stupid good.

More interceptions than completions.

von is the sentimental pick. . . denver draft pick, played on our most legendary defense, won a ring and a super bowl MVP. . . and he has a much more entertaining, engaging personality. . . champ is the correct pick. . . he did it at the very highest level more consistently, and for a longer period of time. . . von, as amazing as he has been, has only had one season where he was the best pass rusher in the game. . . champ was easily, hands down the very best corner in the game for a good 5-6 years, and is much higher on the all-time list at his position than von. . . champ also did it with much less help-- think what he could have done with wade philips! most of von's best years came when he was surrounded by guys like ware, talib, harris, etc-- champ in his prime had dumervil and al wilson, and some over the hill names at safety. . . champ also plays an even more difficult position, and he never receives enough credit for how he handled the transition to the no-chuck era, which saw most of the other top corners fade away before the league adjusted. . . the 2015 post-season run was effing majestic, without a doubt-- but it's not enough to overcome a career's worth of dominant play. . . also, let's not forget that champ traveled all over the field to match up with the other team's best receiver, even tight ends. . . when von gets moved around, it's to get him away from the other team's best tackle. . . champ also excelled on special teams when moron put him there, would have been a wicked punt returner if shanny had allowed it, and even petitioned to play WR. . .

i love me some 58, and we've been super lucky to watch all of these guys, but to me it's a pretty straight-forward question. . .

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

More interceptions than completions.

it was, quite simply, the best season a corner has ever played in the NFL. . . Prime doesn't have a season like that on his resume. . .

I'm a Mecklenburg fan (actually a fan of all of them but particularly the "Albino Rhino" who was almost undrafted yet Joe Collier turned him into one of the best front seven players of all-time) but I am choosing Von Miller because he probably won us a Super Bowl ring that one year. Remember how he sacked, harassed and intercepted Brady in the AFC Championship then two major blow-up plays on Newton in SB50? Love the others but Von got us a ring so I will list him as greatest. I honestly can't say the others won a title practically single-handedly. Take Von out of the equation in those two games and I don't think we win either.

Both my sons played corner very well, and their hero was Champ Bailey. You guys have said it all about Champ. Best move the Broncos ever made in FA.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

This is what I found:

https://247sports.com/Board/30/Conte...ason-27336734/

Thrown at: 35 times
Completions allowed: 4
Passes defended: 21
Interceptions: 10 (1 TD)
Tackles: 98 (84 solo)

Honestly the 4 catches allowed all season might be the most impressive part of that. That's just stupid good.

wow. I didn't realize it was like that.

I know Von is LT level good and by will delivered a championship at a position that impacts every single play--but that level of play by Champ might be the best single season effort on defense by anyone to wear an NFL jersey.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

wow. I didn't realize it was like that.

oh, baby-- it was like that!

champ make it do what it do! he is a bad, baaaaad man. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

oh, baby-- it was like that!

champ make it do what it do! he is a bad, baaaaad man. . .

But can he play safety?

Gradishar has no votes, spike can’t have voted yet as it I remember right, spike loves him some gradishar

I have my own preference for greatest ever

Mister Cobble

There were so many great defensive players on the 90s Broncos SB teams that went unappreciated and was often overlooked because of TD and the offense.

Ray Crockett
Neil Smith
Romanowski
Alfred Williams
John Mobley
Steve Atwater
Dennis Smith

All ballers all gamers

Originally Posted by dogfish

von is the sentimental pick. . . denver draft pick, played on our most legendary defense, won a ring and a super bowl MVP. . . and he has a much more entertaining, engaging personality. . . champ is the correct pick. . . he did it at the very highest level more consistently, and for a longer period of time. . . von, as amazing as he has been, has only had one season where he was the best pass rusher in the game. . . champ was easily, hands down the very best corner in the game for a good 5-6 years, and is much higher on the all-time list at his position than von. . . champ also did it with much less help-- think what he could have done with wade philips! most of von's best years came when he was surrounded by guys like ware, talib, harris, etc-- champ in his prime had dumervil and al wilson, and some over the hill names at safety. . . champ also plays an even more difficult position, and he never receives enough credit for how he handled the transition to the no-chuck era, which saw most of the other top corners fade away before the league adjusted. . . the 2015 post-season run was effing majestic, without a doubt-- but it's not enough to overcome a career's worth of dominant play. . . also, let's not forget that champ traveled all over the field to match up with the other team's best receiver, even tight ends. . . when von gets moved around, it's to get him away from the other team's best tackle. . . champ also excelled on special teams when moron put him there, would have been a wicked punt returner if shanny had allowed it, and even petitioned to play WR. . .

i love me some 58, and we've been super lucky to watch all of these guys, but to me it's a pretty straight-forward question. . .

Yeah hard to argue with any of this. Sometimes I think how good Champ really was gets lost a bit in the overall mediocrity of a lot of those teams he was on. Such a shame we could never get him a ring.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

If some of our elder statesmen in here would like to come tell us stories of Meck and Grad I'm all ears.

Joe? Dread? Where are you guys?

RE: Meck - this says it better than I could:



Also

https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/...nburg-17236823

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos...rl-Mecklenburg

Rahim.