Thread: Report: Chargers have “moved on” from Philip Rivers

Originally Posted by aberdien

If you had to pick a QB to win you a season defining game out of all of the QBs over the last 20 years, Brees is maybe top 10. Which is low considering his inflated stats. Therefore he is overrated. He lucked out being paired with a good HC, good weapons around him, and playing in a cushy dome.

Again, no.

He is.

But let’s go with Big Ben.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Somebody back me up on this!

I'll back you up. All time stat padder who had one nice playoff run that was culminated with his D getting a pick 6. They did just fine when he was out this year.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I'll back you up. All time stat padder who had one nice playoff run that was culminated with his D getting a pick 6. They did just fine when he was out this year.

Says the admitted Saints hater

Originally Posted by aberdien

Somebody back me up on this!

I agree Brees is *somewhat* overrated relative to his stats... He's still an all time great HOF QB - but I don't think he's quite as good as his stats would indicate. But I'd take him over Rivers or Stafford in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by aberdien

If you had to pick a QB to win you a season defining game out of all of the QBs over the last 20 years, Brees is maybe top 10. Which is low considering his inflated stats. Therefore he is overrated. He lucked out being paired with a good HC, good weapons around him, and playing in a cushy dome.

Name the 10

Originally Posted by Buff

I agree Brees is *somewhat* overrated relative to his stats... He's still an all time great HOF QB - but I don't think he's quite as good as his stats would indicate. But I'd take him over Rivers or Stafford in a heartbeat.

Well sure, but I don’t think people put him in the same category as Rivers or Stafford because he has surpassed them. He’s more often mentioned with the greatest of all time. He is a little bit lower than GOAT level.

Originally Posted by slim

Name the 10

1. Tim Tebow
2-10. Other

Originally Posted by Davii

Says the admitted Saints hater

It's funny because I'm complementing the Saints by calling him overrated. He had a great coach and great talent put around him and benefitted from one of the best home field advantages in football. I think a lot of QBs could have succeeded in that organization.

Having said that, I have no problem putting him in the elite tier of QBs in this era, but I'd probably put him last on that list behind Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson at least. And his career was too short to put him on this list, but I'd have taken Luck over him too if I had to win one game.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

It's funny because I'm complementing the Saints by calling him overrated. He had a great coach and great talent put around him and benefitted from one of the best home field advantages in football. I think a lot of QBs could have succeeded in that organization.

Having said that, I have no problem putting him in the elite tier of QBs in this era, but I'd probably put him last on that list behind Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson at least. And his career was too short to put him on this list, but I'd have taken Luck over him too if I had to win one game.

He's > Roethlisberger, Wilson, and easily Luck.

Originally Posted by Davii

He's > Roethlisberger, Wilson, and easily Luck.

Big Ben and Luck could be argued. No way I'd put him over Wilson. The Saints would be a dynasty if you put Wilson there.

Originally Posted by aberdien

1. Tim Tebow
2-10. Other

Okay.

I thought you were trolling. Just wanted to confirm

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Big Ben and Luck could be argued. No way I'd put him over Wilson. The Saints would be a dynasty if you put Wilson there.

I disagree. Brees > Wilson

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

It's funny because I'm complementing the Saints by calling him overrated. He had a great coach and great talent put around him and benefitted from one of the best home field advantages in football. I think a lot of QBs could have succeeded in that organization.

Having said that, I have no problem putting him in the elite tier of QBs in this era, but I'd probably put him last on that list behind Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson at least. And his career was too short to put him on this list, but I'd have taken Luck over him too if I had to win one game.

Brady & Manning, sure. The others? Leaning no, but at worst same level with Brees being in the "A" slot.

Originally Posted by slim

Okay.

I thought you were trolling. Just wanted to confirm

No troll:

Peyton
Brady
Dangeruss
Big Ben
Rodgers
Mahomes
Favre
Brees
Others

He’s bottom half of the top 10 list. Which is low considering his inflated stats. Great production, good-great QB, but his stats overstate how good he was. Therefore overrated.