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Thread: Report: Chargers have “moved on” from Philip Rivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Never got the chance.
    I hated him just from his preseason play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I’ve got to the point where none of these guys are overrated if they’re an NFL starting QB, I’ll gladly go with Flacco if I have to, y’all can have your Nick Mullens and Brandon Allen’s.
    Yeah, but how many draft spots has Philip cost SD?

    That has to count for something
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim View Post
    Yeah, but how many draft spots has Philip cost SD?

    That has to count for something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    I mean he wasn't a trash QB - I just think he is beloved by fans and media which led to him being overrated. He's barely over 500 for his career, sub-.500 in the playoffs -- and I just don't think he had the "it" factor that great QBs have. Which is why he never won anything significant.

    We were having this debate the other night because my Vikings friend said Aaron Rodgers is overrated -- and I said, you know who is actually overrated? Rivers.

    I stand by the opinion until someone can present a more overrated QB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim View Post
    Yeah, but how many draft spots has Philip cost SD?

    That has to count for something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    I mean he wasn't a trash QB - I just think he is beloved by fans and media which led to him being overrated. He's barely over 500 for his career, sub-.500 in the playoffs -- and I just don't think he had the "it" factor that great QBs have. Which is why he never won anything significant.

    We were having this debate the other night because my Vikings friend said Aaron Rodgers is overrated -- and I said, you know who is actually overrated? Rivers.

    I stand by the opinion until someone can present a more overrated QB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    Dak Prescott
    Really? Because all I ever hear about his how much he sucks/how overrated he is. I'd say he gets so much shit at this point he's become underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Really? Because all I ever hear about his how much he sucks/how overrated he is. I'd say he gets so much shit at this point he's become underrated.
    He's going to be paid in the neighborhood of 33-35 million a year.

    To me that's how you're rated as a player, the money you're paid is what your owner, team, and league thinks of you.

    Everything else is emotional BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    He's going to be paid in the neighborhood of 33-35 million a year.

    To me that's how you're rated as a player, the money you're paid is what your owner, team, and league thinks of you.
    Well if that's your barometer, all but the very elite of the elite QBs are overrated, because they basically all get enormous contracts now.

    I don't really care about what a QB makes when determining if they are overrated or not. Teams are all QB desperate and will pay anyone halfway decent. Even the elite QBs aren't worth the mega contacts they get sometimes with how much it hamstrings their cap.

    I dunno, I just think it's bizarre to call one of the most shit on QBs in the league overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Well if that's your barometer, all but the very elite of the elite QBs are overrated, because they basically all get enormous contracts now.

    I don't really care about what a QB makes when determining if they are overrated or not. Teams are all QB desperate and will pay anyone halfway decent. Even the elite QBs aren't worth the mega contacts they get sometimes with how much it hamstrings their cap.

    I dunno, I just think it's bizarre to call one of the most shit on QBs in the league overrated.
    Jerry is over rating him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    Jerry is over rating him.
    Again, I think you could call just about every QB overrated with that logic. They all take up way more of the cap than they are probably worth once they get that big contract.

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    Flacco anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    Flacco anyone?
    This is a good answer. I kinda lump him in with Eli. Mediocre QB who made a whole career of a magical playoff run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Again, I think you could call just about every QB overrated with that logic. They all take up way more of the cap than they are probably worth once they get that big contract.
    Compare apples to apples Bdubs. Qb pay to Qb pay. Is he the best QB in the league? Top 3?

    Where should he rank amongst other QBs on pay based off performance?

    You're better than this silly "they're all overrated" nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davii View Post
    Compare apples to apples Bdubs. Qb pay to Qb pay. Is he the best QB in the league? Top 3?

    Where should he rank amongst other QBs on pay based off performance?

    You're better than this silly "they're all overrated" nonsense.
    We both know that's not how QB contracts work. Every above average to great QB gets a bigger contract than the last guy got. This isn't one isolated incident of Jerry Jones overrating/overpaying Dak. The Rams did the same with Goff. The 49ers did it with Jimmy G. Lions did it with Stafford. Eagles did it with Wentz. Raiders did it with Carr. Vikings did it with Cousins. That's just the cost of doing business in the NFL to keep a young QB. The next guy up will get a bigger deal than Dak.

    To call Dak overrated because he's the latest in these line of above average/good QBs to get a big contract is a little disingenuous. When the next 3 guys get their contract, which will all be bigger than Dak's, his contract won't be top 3 anymore.

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