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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I don’t understand all the patience with Bolles, I’ve been one of his biggest supporters and I’ve had it with him. Such is the power of PFF.

    Make mine Jones.
    I hate Bolles, the problem is the tone from Dove valley doesnt seem they are going to bench him or move on until next year. Apparently he also was highly graded from week 13-17.....so If Munchak belives he can keep improving on that will we consider tackle early? I'm not so sure. McGovern is a wild card for the OL as he may command over 10 mil per year in FA, I have already said if we dont re-sign him we have limited options to replace him, other then a high draft pick. We would be ignorant if we didnt take a tackle in the 1st 2 rds, but we may have to go center for the OL first.....the problem is the value might not line up with our draft slot untill rd2 for tackle.
    2020 Off-Season

    1. DT- Javon Kinlaw (South Carolina)
    2. C- Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin)
    3. WR KJ Hill (Ohio State)
    3. CB- Kyle Dugger (Lenoir-Rhyne)
    3. NT- Marvin Wilson (Florida State)
    4. OT- Jake Driscoll (Auburn)
    4. LB- Malik Harrison (Ohio State)

    FA: Re-sign DL Shelby Harris or Wolfe, FS Justin Simmons and SS Will parks as UFA's. Sign RFA's (Purcell and Patrick) and get WR Robby Anderson, and CB Byron Jones

    9 Jan 20

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    There are 3 centers I could live with in this draft. The Badger, the Sooner and the Husky would all be fine options. We can get our guy in round 2 or 3 if we don't value Biadasz at 15.

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    Cesar Ruiz, Badass, Cushenberry, Donell Stanley.

    Creed Humphrey went back to school.
    "Run through a mother****er face, they just ain't gonna want that."
    "You have to hate what you're firing at! Hate it!"

    No hope left for the hourglass.

    C. Snowden OLB, P. Adebo CB, Mekhi Becton LT, Justin Strnad ILB, Patrick Queen ILB, Isaiah Simmons ILB, D’Andre Swift RB. LaViska Shenault WR. LaVonte Taylor NB. Tristan Wirfs RT/G, Naquan Jones NT, Binjimin Victor WR, Javon Kinlaw DE, Andrew Thomas/Isaiah Wilson T. Leki Fotu NT. Cam Brown LB, Travis Etienne RB.

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    I want nothing to do with Cabral, Williams, Harris and Hansen, enough with the speed bumps at C.
    Last edited by Jaded; 01-19-2020 at 02:43 PM.
    "Run through a mother****er face, they just ain't gonna want that."
    "You have to hate what you're firing at! Hate it!"

    No hope left for the hourglass.

    C. Snowden OLB, P. Adebo CB, Mekhi Becton LT, Justin Strnad ILB, Patrick Queen ILB, Isaiah Simmons ILB, D’Andre Swift RB. LaViska Shenault WR. LaVonte Taylor NB. Tristan Wirfs RT/G, Naquan Jones NT, Binjimin Victor WR, Javon Kinlaw DE, Andrew Thomas/Isaiah Wilson T. Leki Fotu NT. Cam Brown LB, Travis Etienne RB.

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    I don't mind Harris. Ruiz is more of a project IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    I don't mind Harris. Ruiz is more of a project IMO
    Ruiz, Cushenberry and Badass all come from pro systems.
    "Run through a mother****er face, they just ain't gonna want that."
    "You have to hate what you're firing at! Hate it!"

    No hope left for the hourglass.

    C. Snowden OLB, P. Adebo CB, Mekhi Becton LT, Justin Strnad ILB, Patrick Queen ILB, Isaiah Simmons ILB, D’Andre Swift RB. LaViska Shenault WR. LaVonte Taylor NB. Tristan Wirfs RT/G, Naquan Jones NT, Binjimin Victor WR, Javon Kinlaw DE, Andrew Thomas/Isaiah Wilson T. Leki Fotu NT. Cam Brown LB, Travis Etienne RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Ruiz, Cushenberry and Badass all come from pro systems.
    I am really starting to dig the Athelticsm Harris has though....I feel Munchak could do wonders with him.....
    2020 Off-Season

    1. DT- Javon Kinlaw (South Carolina)
    2. C- Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin)
    3. WR KJ Hill (Ohio State)
    3. CB- Kyle Dugger (Lenoir-Rhyne)
    3. NT- Marvin Wilson (Florida State)
    4. OT- Jake Driscoll (Auburn)
    4. LB- Malik Harrison (Ohio State)

    FA: Re-sign DL Shelby Harris or Wolfe, FS Justin Simmons and SS Will parks as UFA's. Sign RFA's (Purcell and Patrick) and get WR Robby Anderson, and CB Byron Jones

    9 Jan 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Ruiz, Cushenberry and Badass all come from pro systems.
    But Ruiz struggled with the elite prospects across from him. Potential is there. Needs more development

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    But Ruiz struggled with the elite prospects across from him. Potential is there. Needs more development
    I would agree with this, he is a guy you draft to groom when you already have a Starter and your preparing to move on in a year or 2. Tyler and Harris are your best bet for draft picks starting early. Hansen is a wildcard depending on scheme he goes to....not a huge fan of him though....
    2020 Off-Season

    1. DT- Javon Kinlaw (South Carolina)
    2. C- Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin)
    3. WR KJ Hill (Ohio State)
    3. CB- Kyle Dugger (Lenoir-Rhyne)
    3. NT- Marvin Wilson (Florida State)
    4. OT- Jake Driscoll (Auburn)
    4. LB- Malik Harrison (Ohio State)

    FA: Re-sign DL Shelby Harris or Wolfe, FS Justin Simmons and SS Will parks as UFA's. Sign RFA's (Purcell and Patrick) and get WR Robby Anderson, and CB Byron Jones

    9 Jan 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    But Ruiz struggled with the elite prospects across from him. Potential is there. Needs more development
    I think he’s a Day 1 NFL starter.
    "Run through a mother****er face, they just ain't gonna want that."
    "You have to hate what you're firing at! Hate it!"

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    C. Snowden OLB, P. Adebo CB, Mekhi Becton LT, Justin Strnad ILB, Patrick Queen ILB, Isaiah Simmons ILB, D’Andre Swift RB. LaViska Shenault WR. LaVonte Taylor NB. Tristan Wirfs RT/G, Naquan Jones NT, Binjimin Victor WR, Javon Kinlaw DE, Andrew Thomas/Isaiah Wilson T. Leki Fotu NT. Cam Brown LB, Travis Etienne RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    I think he’s a Day 1 NFL starter.
    Hmmm....guess we will see. He is slated to go in rd 3 range....We do have 3 3rd rd picks......
    2020 Off-Season

    1. DT- Javon Kinlaw (South Carolina)
    2. C- Tyler Biadasz (Wisconsin)
    3. WR KJ Hill (Ohio State)
    3. CB- Kyle Dugger (Lenoir-Rhyne)
    3. NT- Marvin Wilson (Florida State)
    4. OT- Jake Driscoll (Auburn)
    4. LB- Malik Harrison (Ohio State)

    FA: Re-sign DL Shelby Harris or Wolfe, FS Justin Simmons and SS Will parks as UFA's. Sign RFA's (Purcell and Patrick) and get WR Robby Anderson, and CB Byron Jones

    9 Jan 20

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    Bredeson is actually the Wolverine OL we'll likely end up with. He's a team captain. I could live with him in the 3rd or 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    A couple reasons. The top guys in FA are going to be to expensive. Robby Anderson our best bet in FA at a field stretching deep threat will probably also be priced out of our range, the rest of the FA class is no better then Patrick or Hamilton. With Shurmur and his scheme we will be running a lot of 3 wide. Untill the last 2 games Hamilton has shown zero consistency, and patrick is good for about 1 maybe 2 flash plays a game but not consistently. Our offense sucks, we need weapons and talent. Thats why WR should be Considered. Do we take a WR at 15, only if its BPA in my opinion. We all know we need to adress the OL and DL, but we can't reach for a position of need if the value doesnt line up. Thats how we ended up with a guy like Bolles to begin with. Should we take a WR in the first 3 rds? Absolutely. We can't and shouldnt be satisfied with what we have seen from the WR position from any one other then Sutton the last year and he needs help to prevent double teams the entire game....

    Ideally we have Sutton and A very good, Speedier Outside guy from the draft or FA, hamilton in the slot, backed by spencer, and Patrick as our number 4 for backing up the outside spots. Throw in winfree and another draft pick and UDFA for competetion....and its a improvement which we clearly need.
    If FA you don’t have to get the best WR out there. We have little investing in FA cap wise and have the cap space. I would draft a WR in round 1 and would trade back if the value is not there. If a top WR slides to us in 2 then great. But our trenches need too much to have a luxury puck for a WR.

    I am homer but D Thomas is a FA. Then there is Philip Dorsettt, Seth Roberts, Trayvon Austin, and Breshad Perriman are not in the top 5 of the FA WRs. They could be some value there.

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